Comments on: Can e-scooters and bikes co-exist?

By: Flashback Friday: Can e-scooters and bikes co-exist? – Cycling in Christchurch

Sat, 02 Dec 2023 23:41:34 +0000

[…] research on the safety of different travel modes that includes looking at their record). Back in Dec 2018, when they were first bursting onto the scene in NZ, I pondered how they might interact with our […]

By: Tim

Tim — Sat, 05 Nov 2022 19:29:44 +0000

In reply to Errol Brocklehurst. Common sense, of which cyclists and escooter users display very little of when using shared paths with pedestrians.. Time to start fining cyclists for riding at speed or recklessly on shared paths (or footpaths where they shouldn't be anyway(

By: LennyBoy

LennyBoy — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:36:39 +0000

In reply to Errol Brocklehurst. There are different rules for footpaths vs shared paths; you can always bike on the latter. Paths in the same corridor as a road have the same speed limit applied to them (and Councils can put speed limit bylaws on paths in parks); however, as described in the article above, there are also existing rules about path use behaviour that include not travelling at a speed hazardous to other users. Context-specific yes, but usually quite clear when you are being unduly reckless relative to the people around you (esp. if you crash into someone).

By: Errol Brocklehurst

Errol Brocklehurst — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:53:29 +0000

Update to my post about speed.

There is not bylaw about the required speed of cyclists on shared pathways, it is down to common sense.

By: Errol Brocklehurst

Errol Brocklehurst — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 02:46:16 +0000

The question of lime scooters on pathways and cyclists on pathways have had me looking up speed limits for cyclists using shared pathways.
Under NZ laws there is no speed limits placed on cycles, just a wheel size of 355 mm. Meaning most days cycling on a path is not lawful. Then it also falls on local body rules made by the council of that area about cycling on pathways.
I have contacted the council as the speed allowed on pathways is of interest as I have to use a shared pathway to get to the city from home, they will ring back when they themselves find out what the bylaws are.
Just to note, a cyclist can be charged with endangerment if they decided to break the speed rules set for road users. [doing say 60 km’s in a 50 km area]
Am looking forward to finding out more on speeds for cyclists and shared paths, and will post here when I find out more.

By: Emma

Emma — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 01:46:48 +0000

Wheelchairs, walkers and cyclists on shared pathways also coexist. The improvements to cycleways have benefited all users. For those who like to complain about mobility issues, there are plenty of people who are truly mobility impaired who are independent thanks to the superior sealed paths. Hopefully the improvement in sealed shared paths will continue throughout the city. Those who struggle with sharing such spaces need to investigate the multitude of mobility stability aids that are now available to improve their quality of life.

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 21:09:14 +0000

The time of roll out could not have been better. Even the most critical of the accessible city programme must now see that the wide shared spaces (without vehicles) provided are going to be valuable for moving people now. Tweak a few rules perhaps and do some educating, it will soon sort out any issues. The CBD is fast feeling like a huge playground, you cannot buy that sort of atmosphere.

By: Criggie

Criggie — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 20:50:29 +0000

In reply to Axel Wilke.

I’ve done a wee count up- commuting through Waterloo Road I get passed by 10~20 vehicles going my way, but I pass 80~100 parked vehicles on my side of the road.

Haven’t managed to do this count travelling along Riccarton Road though – have to pay more attention to the traffic :-\

By: Axel Wilke

Axel Wilke — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:05:35 +0000

We should reconsider how we design roads, i.e. the space between legal boundaries. Pedestrians need a safe and comfortable space. People need somewhere to drive. Mid-size space for bikes, scooters and whatnot also needs to be there but is often taken up by storing cars.

By: Jan Jakob

Jan Jakob — Sun, 23 Dec 2018 07:18:27 +0000

There is one potential issue I foresee that is not necessarily bike-specific and not really an insurmountable obstacle, but particularly problematic with bidirectional cycleways: the lights on the lime scooters are pointed upwards and are fixed. I personally feel strongly about bicycles with upward-facing lights as well: that should be a finable offence. Lights pointing upwards are blinding other road users, and there is a reason you don’t see cars driving around with high beams on in town. Other than that, I am not sure. I don’t see the point of e scooters that couldn’t be solved by having a proper cycling culture, but I guess they are not nearly as much a danger to me than most cars (I mean this objectively: one is a 1000kg plus moving mass, so no matter what it is inherently more dangerous than anything else I can encounter on a road).