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	Comments on: Lots of safer speed street consultations out for review	</title>
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		By: Christchurch Speed Mngmt Plan promises good things for Cycling &#8211; Cycling in Christchurch		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/11/28/lots-of-safer-speed-street-consultations-out-for-review/#comment-148643</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christchurch Speed Mngmt Plan promises good things for Cycling &#8211; Cycling in Christchurch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2023 20:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] doesn&#8217;t seem that long ago that Christchurch oversaw a whole raft of suburban lower speed limits, proposing 30 and 40 km/h streets to many of our neighbourhoods and school zones. Those new speed [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] doesn&#8217;t seem that long ago that Christchurch oversaw a whole raft of suburban lower speed limits, proposing 30 and 40 km/h streets to many of our neighbourhoods and school zones. Those new speed [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: David Ivory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Ivory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2022 00:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The great thing about the consultation is that the pressure of public opinion has already improved the proposal. Many of the nonsensical 40km/h zones are now 30km/h - perhaps having Safe Speed Neighbourhoods, and LESS Safe Speed Neighbourhoods had become glaringly obvious - as is the majority support for 30km/h in the comments on the map. 

This updated proposal is much improved.

There is a trick missing though. If the Safe Speed Neighbourhoods are islands for safe walking and cycling - then we need safe routes over the crocodile invested waters between them. So a purposeful strategy to safely link these Neighbourhoods across the remaining high volume higher speed roads now becomes a glaring omission. Pedestrian crossings, bump-outs reducing crossing distances and increasing visibility, or even traffic lights for on demand pedestrian priority.

Further - at the edges of these Safe Speed Neighbourhoods there needs to be more than  just a set of speed signs. Obvious transitions are required - raised footpaths ideally, where the footpath is continuous across the intersection, no material change, no height change... so that is clear to drivers to slow down and that they are entering a new pedestrian and family friendly zone. This should be planned for and rolled out across the edges of all Safe Speed Neighbourhoods.

Then within the Safe Speed Neighbourhoods those stupidly wide roads need to be narrowed and lined with street trees. The railing against builders cutting trees down to build needed new homes misses the point - trees that provide public good are best on public land. The European streets we admire are those with tree lined streets and 3-6 storey perimeter housing. Wide streets encourage speed, narrower tree lined streets naturally encourage lower speeds, as well as all the environmental, health, and economic benefits.

Essentially I&#039;m saying speed changes on streets are only part of the picture - what is needed is a more comprehensive programme to make our suburban streets fit of purpose - not fit for speed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great thing about the consultation is that the pressure of public opinion has already improved the proposal. Many of the nonsensical 40km/h zones are now 30km/h &#8211; perhaps having Safe Speed Neighbourhoods, and LESS Safe Speed Neighbourhoods had become glaringly obvious &#8211; as is the majority support for 30km/h in the comments on the map. </p>
<p>This updated proposal is much improved.</p>
<p>There is a trick missing though. If the Safe Speed Neighbourhoods are islands for safe walking and cycling &#8211; then we need safe routes over the crocodile invested waters between them. So a purposeful strategy to safely link these Neighbourhoods across the remaining high volume higher speed roads now becomes a glaring omission. Pedestrian crossings, bump-outs reducing crossing distances and increasing visibility, or even traffic lights for on demand pedestrian priority.</p>
<p>Further &#8211; at the edges of these Safe Speed Neighbourhoods there needs to be more than  just a set of speed signs. Obvious transitions are required &#8211; raised footpaths ideally, where the footpath is continuous across the intersection, no material change, no height change&#8230; so that is clear to drivers to slow down and that they are entering a new pedestrian and family friendly zone. This should be planned for and rolled out across the edges of all Safe Speed Neighbourhoods.</p>
<p>Then within the Safe Speed Neighbourhoods those stupidly wide roads need to be narrowed and lined with street trees. The railing against builders cutting trees down to build needed new homes misses the point &#8211; trees that provide public good are best on public land. The European streets we admire are those with tree lined streets and 3-6 storey perimeter housing. Wide streets encourage speed, narrower tree lined streets naturally encourage lower speeds, as well as all the environmental, health, and economic benefits.</p>
<p>Essentially I&#8217;m saying speed changes on streets are only part of the picture &#8211; what is needed is a more comprehensive programme to make our suburban streets fit of purpose &#8211; not fit for speed.</p>
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