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	Comments on: Flashback Friday: Hagley/Hospital street works so far	</title>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135557</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 20:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135523&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

There is an allocation of tens of millions in the 10 year plan ( 2021 - 2032 ) for better connections  for cycling. 

41853 Cycle Connections - Wheels to Wings
44693 Cycle Connections - Central City
44695 Local Cycle Network - Inner Western Arc
44696 Local Cycle Network - North West Outer Orbital
44697 Local Cycle Network - South West Outer Orbital
44698 Local Cycle Network - Burnside to Villa
44699 Local Cycle Network - The Palms to Heathcote Express
44700 Local Cycle Network - Eastern Outer Orbital
44701 Local Cycle Network - Northern Mid Orbital
44702 Local Cycle Network - Northern Outer Orbital
44703 Local Cycle Network - Northwood
44704 Local Cycle Network - Opawa &#038; St Martins
44706 Local Cycle Network - Avonside &#038; Wainoni
44707 Local Cycle Network - Bishopdale &#038; Casebrook
44709 Local Cycle Network - Greers Rd
44710 Local Cycle Network - Halswell to Hornby
44711 Local Cycle Network - Opawa, Waltham &#038; Sydenham
44712 Local Cycle Network - Springs Road
44713 Local Cycle Network - Ōtākaro-Avon
44715 Local Cycle Network - Ferrymead

The above are an example ( funding allocated for 2025 -30 ) and are in addition to 
these ones below which have funding allocated between 2022 -2026, more specifically connecting the cycleways to where people wish to go. 

 
17057 Cycle Connections - Rapanui - Shag Rock
17058 Cycle Connections - Northern Line
17059 Cycle Connections - Little River Link
17060 Cycle Connections - Uni-Cycle

This funding is in addition to the capital expenditure for the Cycleways themselves.  Only problem is the good things, as always, take time. As you suggest, a real no brainer with that route, another that comes to mind is reducing the speed , some paint and perhaps traffic calming on Smith Street to link Rapanui Shag Rock with Heathcote Express. 

The more we do, the more we need to do eh!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135523">David</a>.</p>
<p>There is an allocation of tens of millions in the 10 year plan ( 2021 &#8211; 2032 ) for better connections  for cycling. </p>
<p>41853 Cycle Connections &#8211; Wheels to Wings<br />
44693 Cycle Connections &#8211; Central City<br />
44695 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Inner Western Arc<br />
44696 Local Cycle Network &#8211; North West Outer Orbital<br />
44697 Local Cycle Network &#8211; South West Outer Orbital<br />
44698 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Burnside to Villa<br />
44699 Local Cycle Network &#8211; The Palms to Heathcote Express<br />
44700 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Eastern Outer Orbital<br />
44701 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Northern Mid Orbital<br />
44702 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Northern Outer Orbital<br />
44703 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Northwood<br />
44704 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Opawa &amp; St Martins<br />
44706 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Avonside &amp; Wainoni<br />
44707 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Bishopdale &amp; Casebrook<br />
44709 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Greers Rd<br />
44710 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Halswell to Hornby<br />
44711 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Opawa, Waltham &amp; Sydenham<br />
44712 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Springs Road<br />
44713 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Ōtākaro-Avon<br />
44715 Local Cycle Network &#8211; Ferrymead</p>
<p>The above are an example ( funding allocated for 2025 -30 ) and are in addition to<br />
these ones below which have funding allocated between 2022 -2026, more specifically connecting the cycleways to where people wish to go. </p>
<p>17057 Cycle Connections &#8211; Rapanui &#8211; Shag Rock<br />
17058 Cycle Connections &#8211; Northern Line<br />
17059 Cycle Connections &#8211; Little River Link<br />
17060 Cycle Connections &#8211; Uni-Cycle</p>
<p>This funding is in addition to the capital expenditure for the Cycleways themselves.  Only problem is the good things, as always, take time. As you suggest, a real no brainer with that route, another that comes to mind is reducing the speed , some paint and perhaps traffic calming on Smith Street to link Rapanui Shag Rock with Heathcote Express. </p>
<p>The more we do, the more we need to do eh!</p>
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		By: Kevin Peeters		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Peeters]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 12:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Always consider journeys from every possible origin to every possible destination&quot; I loved this and I believe in it too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Always consider journeys from every possible origin to every possible destination&#8221; I loved this and I believe in it too.</p>
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		By: Robert Fleming		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135533</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Fleming]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 07:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135522&quot;&gt;David&lt;/a&gt;.

Requires a change in law unfortunately. Others will confirm but the problem plus solution is sitting patiently on the ministers desk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135522">David</a>.</p>
<p>Requires a change in law unfortunately. Others will confirm but the problem plus solution is sitting patiently on the ministers desk.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s an obvious missing connection between cycle lanes that would better develop the cycle network. This is not quite on topic as it is not a cycle way at present. But it is an obvious oversight.

Edinburgh Street runs from: -
- The Little River Link cycleway at the Christchurch Southern Motorway
   to
- The Nor-West Arc on Domain Terrace

It is a quiet street, and is the natural connection for students cycling from Addington to Hillmorton High School. Additional signage, and a painted cycle lane, needs to be installed. This would be very inexpensive. Then at Lyttleton Road a formalised pedestrian / cycle crossing should be added with a spacious refuge in the median. Ideally this would be signalised - but at present there is nothing.

These updates would make the route much safer for tamariki commuting to school.

Likely the transport planners will point to Lincoln Road as the preferred route - once the bus lane is installed cyclists would feel safer. However it adds at least 500m to the route when for not very much money some simple interventions would increase safety.

Oh and bonus points for timing - there are currently roadworks on Edinburgh Street that will require road markings - so just add some additional lines to the contract... and add some lines.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an obvious missing connection between cycle lanes that would better develop the cycle network. This is not quite on topic as it is not a cycle way at present. But it is an obvious oversight.</p>
<p>Edinburgh Street runs from: &#8211;<br />
&#8211; The Little River Link cycleway at the Christchurch Southern Motorway<br />
   to<br />
&#8211; The Nor-West Arc on Domain Terrace</p>
<p>It is a quiet street, and is the natural connection for students cycling from Addington to Hillmorton High School. Additional signage, and a painted cycle lane, needs to be installed. This would be very inexpensive. Then at Lyttleton Road a formalised pedestrian / cycle crossing should be added with a spacious refuge in the median. Ideally this would be signalised &#8211; but at present there is nothing.</p>
<p>These updates would make the route much safer for tamariki commuting to school.</p>
<p>Likely the transport planners will point to Lincoln Road as the preferred route &#8211; once the bus lane is installed cyclists would feel safer. However it adds at least 500m to the route when for not very much money some simple interventions would increase safety.</p>
<p>Oh and bonus points for timing &#8211; there are currently roadworks on Edinburgh Street that will require road markings &#8211; so just add some additional lines to the contract&#8230; and add some lines.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2022/02/11/flashback-friday-hagley-hospital-street-works-so-far/#comment-135522</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Along Collins Street the cycleway (well it&#039;s a shared path really) is marked with small give way signs at all the cross street intersections. It is very strange. Cars on the cross streets are slowing and stopping at these intersections (effectively giving way) to cars on Collins Street - but cyclists are expected to give way to the cars already giving way. If you follow.

It&#039;s such a farce that *most* cars ignore the requirement for cyclists to give way - and instead wave cyclists through.

There should be consistency. Surely it is better for cars to always give way to cyclists on a shared path / cycle way.

This should be changed ASAP - and the intersections marked more clearly as crossing points for the cycleway/shared path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along Collins Street the cycleway (well it&#8217;s a shared path really) is marked with small give way signs at all the cross street intersections. It is very strange. Cars on the cross streets are slowing and stopping at these intersections (effectively giving way) to cars on Collins Street &#8211; but cyclists are expected to give way to the cars already giving way. If you follow.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s such a farce that *most* cars ignore the requirement for cyclists to give way &#8211; and instead wave cyclists through.</p>
<p>There should be consistency. Surely it is better for cars to always give way to cyclists on a shared path / cycle way.</p>
<p>This should be changed ASAP &#8211; and the intersections marked more clearly as crossing points for the cycleway/shared path.</p>
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