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	Comments on: Flashback Friday &#8211; Adelaide: Sharrows	</title>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2021 02:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2021/07/23/flashback-friday-adelaide-sharrows/#comment-128035&quot;&gt;Criggie&lt;/a&gt;.

One of the reasons that the reconstructed Hereford St got cycle lanes was because the pre-quake Hereford St rebuild (featuring just a shared lane) was a nuisance for riders being stuck in amongst other slow traffic. Central Colombo St is at the top end of what I&#039;d call comfortable traffic volumes to share (in fact, I never understand why so much traffic even bothers to crawl along there...); reducing the incentives to drive there (e.g. stopping the ability to drive from one side of town to the other along Colombo) would help improve the environment...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2021/07/23/flashback-friday-adelaide-sharrows/#comment-128035">Criggie</a>.</p>
<p>One of the reasons that the reconstructed Hereford St got cycle lanes was because the pre-quake Hereford St rebuild (featuring just a shared lane) was a nuisance for riders being stuck in amongst other slow traffic. Central Colombo St is at the top end of what I&#8217;d call comfortable traffic volumes to share (in fact, I never understand why so much traffic even bothers to crawl along there&#8230;); reducing the incentives to drive there (e.g. stopping the ability to drive from one side of town to the other along Colombo) would help improve the environment&#8230;</p>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2021 23:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2021/07/23/flashback-friday-adelaide-sharrows/#comment-127900&quot;&gt;Stephen&lt;/a&gt;.

Colombo Street near the overbridge/Cashel Mall gives a cyclist all the fun of waiting at red lights, in a line with cars, without the protection. 

 There&#039;s not enough room to ride up the side to the front, so frankly its the worst of everything.  I&#039;d take Manchester or even the one-way streets in preference to Colombo.   Heck even Fitzgerald feels safer !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2021/07/23/flashback-friday-adelaide-sharrows/#comment-127900">Stephen</a>.</p>
<p>Colombo Street near the overbridge/Cashel Mall gives a cyclist all the fun of waiting at red lights, in a line with cars, without the protection. </p>
<p> There&#8217;s not enough room to ride up the side to the front, so frankly its the worst of everything.  I&#8217;d take Manchester or even the one-way streets in preference to Colombo.   Heck even Fitzgerald feels safer !</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 12:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2021/07/23/flashback-friday-adelaide-sharrows/#comment-127900&quot;&gt;Stephen&lt;/a&gt;.

The Featherston St sharrow markings in Wellington were part of the original trials around NZ and it&#039;s fair to say that the conclusion was that this site is actually far too busy to really meet the criteria for using a sharrow (in fact, I&#039;d say that they wouldn&#039;t fall into the acceptable range of traffic speeds and volumes given in the &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/sharrow-markings/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;noopener nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;NZ guidelines for sharrows&lt;/a&gt; subsequently developed). You need to pick a site with sufficiently low traffic volumes and speeds - or change the street to create these conditions...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2021/07/23/flashback-friday-adelaide-sharrows/#comment-127900">Stephen</a>.</p>
<p>The Featherston St sharrow markings in Wellington were part of the original trials around NZ and it&#8217;s fair to say that the conclusion was that this site is actually far too busy to really meet the criteria for using a sharrow (in fact, I&#8217;d say that they wouldn&#8217;t fall into the acceptable range of traffic speeds and volumes given in the <a href="https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/sharrow-markings/" target="_blank" rel="noopener nofollow ugc">NZ guidelines for sharrows</a> subsequently developed). You need to pick a site with sufficiently low traffic volumes and speeds &#8211; or change the street to create these conditions&#8230;</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 07:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anecodotes aren&#039;t data, yadda yadda, but my personal experience of sharrows is not good. Too often motorists drive aggressively when you take the lane, despite the sharrow. They very much do not want to share and some will let you know with their horn, by tailgating, or passing too close when they think they can get away with it.

In saying that, most of these experiences happened in Wellington, on Featherston St, and by the Kelburn viaduct. In Christchurch the only sharrow I can think of off-hand where I regularly ride is the blocks of Colombo St around Cashel... and there, the traffic is genuinely slow enough it doesn&#039;t seem to cause much bother.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anecodotes aren&#8217;t data, yadda yadda, but my personal experience of sharrows is not good. Too often motorists drive aggressively when you take the lane, despite the sharrow. They very much do not want to share and some will let you know with their horn, by tailgating, or passing too close when they think they can get away with it.</p>
<p>In saying that, most of these experiences happened in Wellington, on Featherston St, and by the Kelburn viaduct. In Christchurch the only sharrow I can think of off-hand where I regularly ride is the blocks of Colombo St around Cashel&#8230; and there, the traffic is genuinely slow enough it doesn&#8217;t seem to cause much bother.</p>
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