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		By: Emma		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26356</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 06:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26114&quot;&gt;Dominic&lt;/a&gt;.

Its a design fail which has been created by accomodating residents who were concerned about being a thoroughfare for vehicles, and now seem set on trying to get rid of cyclists. 

Its another case of shouting about how safe cycle streets are while ignoring the actions of those who seek to make them unsafe. 

I just find it easier to cycle down the middle of the road when that happens, in front of any traffic and a few times I&#039;ve managed to sit on my cycle in front of their vehicles and check my phone when they&#039;ve sat there and waited to leave.  Wouldn&#039;t  recommend this to everyone though. Be terrible if everyone took the law into their own hands now wouldn&#039;t it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26114">Dominic</a>.</p>
<p>Its a design fail which has been created by accomodating residents who were concerned about being a thoroughfare for vehicles, and now seem set on trying to get rid of cyclists. </p>
<p>Its another case of shouting about how safe cycle streets are while ignoring the actions of those who seek to make them unsafe. </p>
<p>I just find it easier to cycle down the middle of the road when that happens, in front of any traffic and a few times I&#8217;ve managed to sit on my cycle in front of their vehicles and check my phone when they&#8217;ve sat there and waited to leave.  Wouldn&#8217;t  recommend this to everyone though. Be terrible if everyone took the law into their own hands now wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		By: Emma		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 06:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26114&quot;&gt;Dominic&lt;/a&gt;.

Agreed.]]></description>
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<p>Agreed.</p>
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		By: Ben		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 15:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a thought, but in Denver, USA, someone set up a website for the public to submit photos of things blocking cycle lanes. It can help the general public submit photos and locations, which can help identify problem areas. The site isn&#039;t perfect. It takes a while to load all of them, but it does help visualize the biggest problems spots.

http://carsinbikelanesdenver.com/index.php?center=39.769,-105.103&#038;zoom=12&#038;max=5000]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought, but in Denver, USA, someone set up a website for the public to submit photos of things blocking cycle lanes. It can help the general public submit photos and locations, which can help identify problem areas. The site isn&#8217;t perfect. It takes a while to load all of them, but it does help visualize the biggest problems spots.</p>
<p><a href="http://carsinbikelanesdenver.com/index.php?center=39.769,-105.103&#038;zoom=12&#038;max=5000" rel="nofollow ugc">http://carsinbikelanesdenver.com/index.php?center=39.769,-105.103&#038;zoom=12&#038;max=5000</a></p>
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		By: Graeme		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Graeme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 23:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26112&quot;&gt;Jan Jakob&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok, thanks - I didn&#039;t know about the ones tucked inside the carpark entrance (I can just see them on Google streetview - haven&#039;t checked them in person as yet).  Good to know.   For the casual visitor such as myself, it would be great if there were some signs near the laneway entrance and/or supermarket entrance directing you to the bike parking.  I don&#039;t do my regular shopping in the CBD, and I turned up there a few Friday evening&#039;s ago - &quot;right, where do I park my bike?&quot;.  Nothing obvious nearby so I improvised.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26112">Jan Jakob</a>.</p>
<p>Ok, thanks &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know about the ones tucked inside the carpark entrance (I can just see them on Google streetview &#8211; haven&#8217;t checked them in person as yet).  Good to know.   For the casual visitor such as myself, it would be great if there were some signs near the laneway entrance and/or supermarket entrance directing you to the bike parking.  I don&#8217;t do my regular shopping in the CBD, and I turned up there a few Friday evening&#8217;s ago &#8211; &#8220;right, where do I park my bike?&#8221;.  Nothing obvious nearby so I improvised.</p>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26132</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26129&quot;&gt;Joy Burt&lt;/a&gt;.

Lock your bike to a couple of trolleys?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26129">Joy Burt</a>.</p>
<p>Lock your bike to a couple of trolleys?</p>
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		By: Andreas		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26130</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26113&quot;&gt;Jan Jakob&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed, this is a terrifying traffic rule, and as Jan already pointed out, internationally unprecedented (at least in the West-European context where I come from). Me and my family had quite a few near-misses as pedestrians caused by cars coming from behind and turning into streets without the slightest concern for pedestrians who can&#039;t see them.  In my job, I have to fill out book-size H&#038;S forms incorporating every possibly hazard for students on field trips, but major - and easy to solve - traffic hazards caused by a lack of proper rules are not addressed adequately!  I&#039;m afraid, pedestrians &#038; cyclists do simply not have priority in this country. Another example is the lack of presumed liability in NZ law, but that&#039;s a different story...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26113">Jan Jakob</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed, this is a terrifying traffic rule, and as Jan already pointed out, internationally unprecedented (at least in the West-European context where I come from). Me and my family had quite a few near-misses as pedestrians caused by cars coming from behind and turning into streets without the slightest concern for pedestrians who can&#8217;t see them.  In my job, I have to fill out book-size H&amp;S forms incorporating every possibly hazard for students on field trips, but major &#8211; and easy to solve &#8211; traffic hazards caused by a lack of proper rules are not addressed adequately!  I&#8217;m afraid, pedestrians &amp; cyclists do simply not have priority in this country. Another example is the lack of presumed liability in NZ law, but that&#8217;s a different story&#8230;</p>
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		By: Joy Burt		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26129</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy Burt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just after Fresh Choice opened I rang CCC and spoke to FC staff about bike parking.  Neither were very concerned!  Only choice is to shop elsewhere and then ring them to say how much you spent and why they lost out on the sale.  The only other thing I could suggest is ignoring the signs about taking their trolleys away and leaving them at the cycle stands  at the corner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just after Fresh Choice opened I rang CCC and spoke to FC staff about bike parking.  Neither were very concerned!  Only choice is to shop elsewhere and then ring them to say how much you spent and why they lost out on the sale.  The only other thing I could suggest is ignoring the signs about taking their trolleys away and leaving them at the cycle stands  at the corner.</p>
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		By: Neil		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 07:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26112&quot;&gt;Jan Jakob&lt;/a&gt;.

Last time I was there - used the stands 10 meters towards Colombo st - on the same side. Agree that another stand outside the supermarket would be handy though]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26112">Jan Jakob</a>.</p>
<p>Last time I was there &#8211; used the stands 10 meters towards Colombo st &#8211; on the same side. Agree that another stand outside the supermarket would be handy though</p>
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		By: Alice Ronald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alice Ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 06:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26112&quot;&gt;Jan Jakob&lt;/a&gt;.

Bike parking at the Fresh Choice is horrid. They&#039;ve relied on the existing hoops that are at the intersection of Colombo &#038; Lichfield, or Cashel Mall, or in the bus exchange, so don&#039;t believe that there should be any directly outside the shop. I have a wheel lock so just leave mine outside the flight centre/supplements shop in the alleyway. Some people lock their bikes to the gate at the alley entrance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26112">Jan Jakob</a>.</p>
<p>Bike parking at the Fresh Choice is horrid. They&#8217;ve relied on the existing hoops that are at the intersection of Colombo &amp; Lichfield, or Cashel Mall, or in the bus exchange, so don&#8217;t believe that there should be any directly outside the shop. I have a wheel lock so just leave mine outside the flight centre/supplements shop in the alleyway. Some people lock their bikes to the gate at the alley entrance.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26116</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 05:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26113&quot;&gt;Jan Jakob&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with the horrible design of the Crossing carpark entrance. Regardless of what it looks like, it is still a driveway, not a roadway, and so drivers are legally expected to give way to anyone on the footpath - but the design tells you a different story...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2019/07/21/more-dodgy-bike-and-car-parking/#comment-26113">Jan Jakob</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with the horrible design of the Crossing carpark entrance. Regardless of what it looks like, it is still a driveway, not a roadway, and so drivers are legally expected to give way to anyone on the footpath &#8211; but the design tells you a different story&#8230;</p>
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