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	Comments on: Waimakariri District Walking/Cycling Strategy	</title>
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		By: Cyclomaniac		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1844</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2017 08:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1842&quot;&gt;VictoriaX&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes....but when drivers slow down during peak hours how many cyclists would still feel comfortable taking the lane? It is not my sense of adventure.. 

For me, if a six year or seventy year old or a person with slight disabilities would not be able or feel confident to ride a bike somewhere it does not classify as cycling infrastructure. Central and local government should come to the table and come up with a plan that enables tourists and locals to cross the Waimak safely by bike or foot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1842">VictoriaX</a>.</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;.but when drivers slow down during peak hours how many cyclists would still feel comfortable taking the lane? It is not my sense of adventure.. </p>
<p>For me, if a six year or seventy year old or a person with slight disabilities would not be able or feel confident to ride a bike somewhere it does not classify as cycling infrastructure. Central and local government should come to the table and come up with a plan that enables tourists and locals to cross the Waimak safely by bike or foot.</p>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1843</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2017 21:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1839&quot;&gt;John Brett&lt;/a&gt;.

John - the old Waimak bridge should be crossed &#034;as fast as you can&#034;   to minimise your exposure.

Plus its a good sprint!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1839">John Brett</a>.</p>
<p>John &#8211; the old Waimak bridge should be crossed &quot;as fast as you can&quot;   to minimise your exposure.</p>
<p>Plus its a good sprint!</p>
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		By: VictoriaX		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VictoriaX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1838&quot;&gt;Criggie&lt;/a&gt;.

At peak hours vehicles will be a lot slower than cyclists &#038; as the other poster has said just take the lane as you have right of way over a vehicle anyway.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1838">Criggie</a>.</p>
<p>At peak hours vehicles will be a lot slower than cyclists &amp; as the other poster has said just take the lane as you have right of way over a vehicle anyway.  </p>
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		By: VictoriaX		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1841</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VictoriaX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2017 13:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1840&quot;&gt;LennyBoy&lt;/a&gt;.

Perhaps signs on the Old Waimak Bridge reminding vehicles that they have to give way to cyclists.  I go over the bridge in my car once a week &#038; if there is a cyclist on it I put on my hazard lights so that traffic behind perhaps will realise why I driving slow. Of course if there is no traffic coming towards me I will pass the cyclist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1840">LennyBoy</a>.</p>
<p>Perhaps signs on the Old Waimak Bridge reminding vehicles that they have to give way to cyclists.  I go over the bridge in my car once a week &amp; if there is a cyclist on it I put on my hazard lights so that traffic behind perhaps will realise why I driving slow. Of course if there is no traffic coming towards me I will pass the cyclist.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1840</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1839&quot;&gt;John Brett&lt;/a&gt;.

John, that&#039;s pretty much it at present; you have to take the lane to encourage motor vehs to overtake you in the opposing lane. That&#039;s why access across the Waimak has been a bugbear for years and why generally only the &quot;strong and fearless&quot; will usually do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1839">John Brett</a>.</p>
<p>John, that&#8217;s pretty much it at present; you have to take the lane to encourage motor vehs to overtake you in the opposing lane. That&#8217;s why access across the Waimak has been a bugbear for years and why generally only the &#8220;strong and fearless&#8221; will usually do it.</p>
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		By: John Brett		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1839</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Brett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cycling across the Waimakariri bridge- can you please advise how you advise cyclists to do this? As there is no shoulder to the lane, a cyclist would according to the road code &#039;Take the Lane&#039;. This means that for the length of the bridge, all traffic will be limited to cycling speed whenever a cyclist crosses the bridge. Do you have any comments?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cycling across the Waimakariri bridge- can you please advise how you advise cyclists to do this? As there is no shoulder to the lane, a cyclist would according to the road code &#8216;Take the Lane&#8217;. This means that for the length of the bridge, all traffic will be limited to cycling speed whenever a cyclist crosses the bridge. Do you have any comments?</p>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2016 03:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is counterintuitive, but the safest rural roads are generally the busiest.

Compare the metre or two of sealed shoulder on most of Lineside Road to the 10 cm of sealed shoulder on every other road., like Flaxton or Tuahiwi Road.  



The one big enabler would be better safety across the Waimakariri.  There are four bridges, one of which is reserved for Rail, and one is SH1 a.  That leaves two usable bridges, one at the Gorge and the Old Waimak Bridge.  And while the gorge bridge is a nice day out, its a bit far for the daily commute.

How about 
* Adding a cycle lane cantilevered out on either side of the old waimak road bridge.  Could do just one side, but if both sides then bikes won&#039;t need to cross the car traffic at both ends.

* What about signalising on the rail bridge? A 5  (?) minute signal to clear the bridge should be enough, its no more complex than normal rail crossing signals.   And there&#039;s only what - three trains a day now?  The bridge would need surfacing for wheeled traffic, and possibly a middle bay for those who are slow (or foolhardy)   This also means getting the cycle traffic to the rail bridge.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is counterintuitive, but the safest rural roads are generally the busiest.</p>
<p>Compare the metre or two of sealed shoulder on most of Lineside Road to the 10 cm of sealed shoulder on every other road., like Flaxton or Tuahiwi Road.  </p>
<p>The one big enabler would be better safety across the Waimakariri.  There are four bridges, one of which is reserved for Rail, and one is SH1 a.  That leaves two usable bridges, one at the Gorge and the Old Waimak Bridge.  And while the gorge bridge is a nice day out, its a bit far for the daily commute.</p>
<p>How about<br />
* Adding a cycle lane cantilevered out on either side of the old waimak road bridge.  Could do just one side, but if both sides then bikes won&#8217;t need to cross the car traffic at both ends.</p>
<p>* What about signalising on the rail bridge? A 5  (?) minute signal to clear the bridge should be enough, its no more complex than normal rail crossing signals.   And there&#8217;s only what &#8211; three trains a day now?  The bridge would need surfacing for wheeled traffic, and possibly a middle bay for those who are slow (or foolhardy)   This also means getting the cycle traffic to the rail bridge.</p>
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		By: Lucinda Rees		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/11/04/waimakariri-district-walkingcycling-strategy/#comment-1837</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucinda Rees]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 19:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this.  As a rural Waimakariri resident/person I see that many cyclists and walkers are prisoners in their own lifestyle blocks.  You make some great observations and I have been meaning to leave my comment, but not yet done so, but this has prompted me to get my act together.  Having a mandatory cyclist passing distance might give cyclists more confidence to get out and about in the more rural areas, as safe cycleways are unlikely to get out our way soon.  And then there are speed limits.  Just look at the village of Ohoka:  narrow roads run through it and the speed limit is 70km/h.  Unbelievable!  And then we still have speed limits up to 100km/h outside schools.  How can you let children cycle and feel that they will get home safely?  But these problems are sadly countrywide...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this.  As a rural Waimakariri resident/person I see that many cyclists and walkers are prisoners in their own lifestyle blocks.  You make some great observations and I have been meaning to leave my comment, but not yet done so, but this has prompted me to get my act together.  Having a mandatory cyclist passing distance might give cyclists more confidence to get out and about in the more rural areas, as safe cycleways are unlikely to get out our way soon.  And then there are speed limits.  Just look at the village of Ohoka:  narrow roads run through it and the speed limit is 70km/h.  Unbelievable!  And then we still have speed limits up to 100km/h outside schools.  How can you let children cycle and feel that they will get home safely?  But these problems are sadly countrywide&#8230;</p>
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