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		By: velocipede		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[velocipede]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1674&quot;&gt;SW Commuter&lt;/a&gt;.

30kmph speed limits need to be imposed widely: anywhere through a &#034;business zone&#034; as in Riccarton Rd through Upper or Lower Riccarton, Papanui Rd-Main North Rd. through Papanui, lincoln Rd. through Addington, Barrington Rd., etc., etc., etc...

Said speed limit also needs to be imposed in ALL residential zones, and ALL school zones.

Having said that, speeds through &#034;business zones&#034; tend to approximate 30kmph ANYWAYS. So, in one sense, no change required. On the other hand, institutionalising 30kmph speed limits in law reinforces that which is already so with the force of law to the benefit of all.

For all the controversy over instituting 30kmph speed limits, most in Christchurch don&#039;t realise how commonly they are effectively instituted by default on main roads, through their favourite pinch points, most of the time. Such pinch points approximate 15-20kmph, so 30kmph would be a generous as well as unrealistic offer indeed.

Its such a political big deal that motor vehicle speed limits be limited anywhere, anytime. That they become limited to traffic flow reality already extant as well as cycle friendliness is even more contentious. Why?

Tuam St. is set to 30kmph as far as I can tell. Its slower than I would wish (as a cyclist, personally, selfishly speaking) but very, very easily amenable to taking the lane albeit slower but far safer than using the separated cycle lane built at much cost way too dangerous to negotiate at same, typical speed.

St Asaph St.appears to be set at 30kmph already as I experience it. Too slow, perhaps - actually way too slow with the typical NE behind oneself - but that&#039;s all good as things are. If a separated cycle lane is built as planned along this street I will not use it as I do not use the cycle lane on Tuam St as its way too dangerous.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1674">SW Commuter</a>.</p>
<p>30kmph speed limits need to be imposed widely: anywhere through a &quot;business zone&quot; as in Riccarton Rd through Upper or Lower Riccarton, Papanui Rd-Main North Rd. through Papanui, lincoln Rd. through Addington, Barrington Rd., etc., etc., etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Said speed limit also needs to be imposed in ALL residential zones, and ALL school zones.</p>
<p>Having said that, speeds through &quot;business zones&quot; tend to approximate 30kmph ANYWAYS. So, in one sense, no change required. On the other hand, institutionalising 30kmph speed limits in law reinforces that which is already so with the force of law to the benefit of all.</p>
<p>For all the controversy over instituting 30kmph speed limits, most in Christchurch don&#8217;t realise how commonly they are effectively instituted by default on main roads, through their favourite pinch points, most of the time. Such pinch points approximate 15-20kmph, so 30kmph would be a generous as well as unrealistic offer indeed.</p>
<p>Its such a political big deal that motor vehicle speed limits be limited anywhere, anytime. That they become limited to traffic flow reality already extant as well as cycle friendliness is even more contentious. Why?</p>
<p>Tuam St. is set to 30kmph as far as I can tell. Its slower than I would wish (as a cyclist, personally, selfishly speaking) but very, very easily amenable to taking the lane albeit slower but far safer than using the separated cycle lane built at much cost way too dangerous to negotiate at same, typical speed.</p>
<p>St Asaph St.appears to be set at 30kmph already as I experience it. Too slow, perhaps &#8211; actually way too slow with the typical NE behind oneself &#8211; but that&#8217;s all good as things are. If a separated cycle lane is built as planned along this street I will not use it as I do not use the cycle lane on Tuam St as its way too dangerous.</p>
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		By: SW Commuter		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1674</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SW Commuter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2016 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1673&quot;&gt;Hazel Agnew&lt;/a&gt;.

I find that the traffic on Riccarton Road generally travels at less than 30km/h due to congestion anyway. And when it is flowing well the only real issue is the stop/start nature of the designated cycle lanes where they exist, which is another issue in itself. So my opinion is that no speed limit change is needed in this case. Can&#039;t think of any other cases along my commute where it would be beneficial either. That&#039;s not to say that I wouldn&#039;t oppose reductions in other cases depending on circumstances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1673">Hazel Agnew</a>.</p>
<p>I find that the traffic on Riccarton Road generally travels at less than 30km/h due to congestion anyway. And when it is flowing well the only real issue is the stop/start nature of the designated cycle lanes where they exist, which is another issue in itself. So my opinion is that no speed limit change is needed in this case. Can&#8217;t think of any other cases along my commute where it would be beneficial either. That&#8217;s not to say that I wouldn&#8217;t oppose reductions in other cases depending on circumstances.</p>
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		By: Hazel Agnew		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1673</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hazel Agnew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2016 13:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[- Papanui Road, around Northlands Mall &#038; Merivale Mall areas - 30 km (or 40 km) maximum
- Halswell Road, between Hendersons Road &#038; Dunbar Road - 50 km (or 60 km) maximum
- Riccarton Road, between Matipo Street &#038; Mandeville Street - 30 km (or 40 km) maximum
- Lincoln Road east if junction with Whiteleigh Avenue - 30 km (or 40 km) maximum
- CBD between the entire 4 avenues area - 30 km (or 40 km) maximum
- part time lower speed limits outside ALL schools - 30 km (or 40 km) maximum
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; Papanui Road, around Northlands Mall &amp; Merivale Mall areas &#8211; 30 km (or 40 km) maximum<br />
&#8211; Halswell Road, between Hendersons Road &amp; Dunbar Road &#8211; 50 km (or 60 km) maximum<br />
&#8211; Riccarton Road, between Matipo Street &amp; Mandeville Street &#8211; 30 km (or 40 km) maximum<br />
&#8211; Lincoln Road east if junction with Whiteleigh Avenue &#8211; 30 km (or 40 km) maximum<br />
&#8211; CBD between the entire 4 avenues area &#8211; 30 km (or 40 km) maximum<br />
&#8211; part time lower speed limits outside ALL schools &#8211; 30 km (or 40 km) maximum<br />
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		By: CP		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1672</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2016 00:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d really welcome the same 50 to 30 drop happening to St Asaph Street.
  
Tuam Street dropping to 30kph has dramatically improved my safety as I&#039;m now moving at vehicle speed so readily able to signal and change lanes to turn right. Previously it was quite a problem as I was too fast to be at the rear of the vehicle groups moving through but not fast enough to change lanes through them. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really welcome the same 50 to 30 drop happening to St Asaph Street.</p>
<p>Tuam Street dropping to 30kph has dramatically improved my safety as I&#8217;m now moving at vehicle speed so readily able to signal and change lanes to turn right. Previously it was quite a problem as I was too fast to be at the rear of the vehicle groups moving through but not fast enough to change lanes through them. </p>
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		By: Tobi		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tobi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2016 09:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I absolutely agree with northern city center and that it&#039;s too narrow anyway. But unfortunately some drivers see it as a challenge and hoon through there as fast as possible... 

City wide planket (residential zones) would be nice. I think it would also encourage people to use &#034;main roads&#034;. Chch, due to the grid layout, suffers from too many big/main roads in my opinion. It would be nice if there was a stronger distinction between quieter/residential roads and main roads. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with northern city center and that it&#8217;s too narrow anyway. But unfortunately some drivers see it as a challenge and hoon through there as fast as possible&#8230; </p>
<p>City wide planket (residential zones) would be nice. I think it would also encourage people to use &quot;main roads&quot;. Chch, due to the grid layout, suffers from too many big/main roads in my opinion. It would be nice if there was a stronger distinction between quieter/residential roads and main roads. </p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2016 07:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Edgeware Village  please.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edgeware Village  please.</p>
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		By: Cyclomaniac		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2016/06/12/where-should-we-have-lower-speed-limits/#comment-1669</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2016 06:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eastern end of Riccarton Rd would be an absolute no-brainer I would think!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eastern end of Riccarton Rd would be an absolute no-brainer I would think!</p>
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