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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-145236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-145228&quot;&gt;Rod&lt;/a&gt;.

Sadly, neither the Police nor Council will consider photo evidence of parking behaviour for infringement purposes (they might consider a warning note to the owner eg via a Police Roadwatch form). If you want immediate action, ring the CCC Parking Enforcement team directly to get them to visit the site on 03-941-8741, noting that they only operate during daytime hours (7am-6pm weekdays, 8am-4pm weekends)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-145228">Rod</a>.</p>
<p>Sadly, neither the Police nor Council will consider photo evidence of parking behaviour for infringement purposes (they might consider a warning note to the owner eg via a Police Roadwatch form). If you want immediate action, ring the CCC Parking Enforcement team directly to get them to visit the site on 03-941-8741, noting that they only operate during daytime hours (7am-6pm weekdays, 8am-4pm weekends)</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2023 17:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came across 3 cars parked on a cycle lane. It’s one of the new two way green cycle lanes with a barrier between the cycle lane and roads with enough room for a car or 4WD to park.
The road was to busy to use.
I took photos of all 3 cars with their number plates. 
Where can I email them to?
A Christchurch City Council email address or Police email?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came across 3 cars parked on a cycle lane. It’s one of the new two way green cycle lanes with a barrier between the cycle lane and roads with enough room for a car or 4WD to park.<br />
The road was to busy to use.<br />
I took photos of all 3 cars with their number plates.<br />
Where can I email them to?<br />
A Christchurch City Council email address or Police email?</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-75595</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2020 11:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1474&quot;&gt;Colin Pearson&lt;/a&gt;.

Car park buildings should be the same price as road side parking now. That’s the idea of car park buildings and when they are more expensive that’s what puts of people parking in them. Lots of drivers have told me that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1474">Colin Pearson</a>.</p>
<p>Car park buildings should be the same price as road side parking now. That’s the idea of car park buildings and when they are more expensive that’s what puts of people parking in them. Lots of drivers have told me that.</p>
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		By: Rich		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1491</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2015 20:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1475&quot;&gt;Colin Pearson&lt;/a&gt;.

Why doesn&#039;t it surprise me that it&#039;s a bus driver. They drive their buses in the same way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1475">Colin Pearson</a>.</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t it surprise me that it&#8217;s a bus driver. They drive their buses in the same way.</p>
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		By: Velocipede		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1490</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Velocipede]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2015 04:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There have to be 10&#039;s if not hundreds of examples of car parking spaces impinging upon designated cycle lanes in Christchurch (and where there are not yellow dotted no parking marks at the curb). Motorists seem to think that if there are no no parking lines then anywhere along the roadside is fair game, even if it means partially or completely blocking a designated cycle lane. I&#039;ll be very surprised if there is any policing and/or ticketing of what is illegal and/or dangerous parking.

I&#039;ve gotten so used to them I hardly notice them any more and have only begun noticing the worst examples since seeing this article when it was first posted. Just off the top of my head, there&#039;s one on Kahu Rd. just before Straven Rd. travelling east; one just past St. Andrew&#039;s Sq. where it intersects with Norman&#039;s Rd. travelling SW; one on Shirley Rd. travelling east past the intersection with Hills Rd.

All things being equal and when safe to do so I have no qualms about &quot;taking the lane&quot; after very clearly indicating my intention in order to safely negotiate my way around a parked car blocking or partially blocking a cycle lane.

Another spillover problem occurs when the vehicle is too wide and then some for the parking space and/or the driver doesn&#039;t is incapable of parking any closer than half a meter from the curb as Joy notes. Additionally, there are any number of places where a bus at a legitimate bus stop will not only completely block the cycle lane but also impinge a further couple of metres of so into the roadway. Again, I &quot;take the lane&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have to be 10&#8217;s if not hundreds of examples of car parking spaces impinging upon designated cycle lanes in Christchurch (and where there are not yellow dotted no parking marks at the curb). Motorists seem to think that if there are no no parking lines then anywhere along the roadside is fair game, even if it means partially or completely blocking a designated cycle lane. I&#8217;ll be very surprised if there is any policing and/or ticketing of what is illegal and/or dangerous parking.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve gotten so used to them I hardly notice them any more and have only begun noticing the worst examples since seeing this article when it was first posted. Just off the top of my head, there&#8217;s one on Kahu Rd. just before Straven Rd. travelling east; one just past St. Andrew&#8217;s Sq. where it intersects with Norman&#8217;s Rd. travelling SW; one on Shirley Rd. travelling east past the intersection with Hills Rd.</p>
<p>All things being equal and when safe to do so I have no qualms about &#8220;taking the lane&#8221; after very clearly indicating my intention in order to safely negotiate my way around a parked car blocking or partially blocking a cycle lane.</p>
<p>Another spillover problem occurs when the vehicle is too wide and then some for the parking space and/or the driver doesn&#8217;t is incapable of parking any closer than half a meter from the curb as Joy notes. Additionally, there are any number of places where a bus at a legitimate bus stop will not only completely block the cycle lane but also impinge a further couple of metres of so into the roadway. Again, I &#8220;take the lane&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Joy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1489</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2015 22:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And what about the new extra wide cars and utes in the city. Even parked to the kerb they overflow the space allocated (up to 40 cm for some of them). And the new marking on Ferry Road where it branches off Moorhouse also starts off narrow.

What is the law concerning these lines anyhow? Do cars have to stay within them legally?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what about the new extra wide cars and utes in the city. Even parked to the kerb they overflow the space allocated (up to 40 cm for some of them). And the new marking on Ferry Road where it branches off Moorhouse also starts off narrow.</p>
<p>What is the law concerning these lines anyhow? Do cars have to stay within them legally?</p>
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		By: Colin Pearson		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1488</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Pearson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2015 04:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1487&quot;&gt;Doug&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s great! I see it&#039;s rumble strips on the right too so a reminder for the drifter drivers when they accidentially cross the painted median. Great idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1487">Doug</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great! I see it&#8217;s rumble strips on the right too so a reminder for the drifter drivers when they accidentially cross the painted median. Great idea.</p>
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		By: Doug		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2015 13:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like this example from Melbourne http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T8WtT22QVuY/UfttkubkUCI/AAAAAAAAA8E/amJm70h2LX0/s1600/DSC02773.JPG. It reminds cyclists to stay out of the door zone and also negates specious thoughts and comments from motorists about cyclists riding on the outer edge of the cycle lane in order to aggravate them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this example from Melbourne <a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T8WtT22QVuY/UfttkubkUCI/AAAAAAAAA8E/amJm70h2LX0/s1600/DSC02773.JPG" rel="nofollow ugc">http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T8WtT22QVuY/UfttkubkUCI/AAAAAAAAA8E/amJm70h2LX0/s1600/DSC02773.JPG</a>. It reminds cyclists to stay out of the door zone and also negates specious thoughts and comments from motorists about cyclists riding on the outer edge of the cycle lane in order to aggravate them.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 19:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1485&quot;&gt;david&lt;/a&gt;.

Generally new ones should be 1.8m; Chch has been pretty good at following best practice. But I get the impression that sometimes during re-marking after sealing there&#039;s a bit of &#039;creep&#039; for where some of these lines end up. Also, as the photo indicates, they&#039;re not always good at doing tapers to the right width if trying to squeeze in one more car park.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1485">david</a>.</p>
<p>Generally new ones should be 1.8m; Chch has been pretty good at following best practice. But I get the impression that sometimes during re-marking after sealing there&#8217;s a bit of &#8216;creep&#8217; for where some of these lines end up. Also, as the photo indicates, they&#8217;re not always good at doing tapers to the right width if trying to squeeze in one more car park.</p>
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		By: david		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1480&quot;&gt;LennyBoy&lt;/a&gt;.

How many cycle lanes in Christchurch are 1.8m wide? That seems larger then a lot of them appear to be - correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, thanks for the tip. I already ride on the far right side of the cycle lanes when passing bunched up parked cars for that very reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/12/10/photo-of-the-day-cycle-lanes-vs-parking/#comment-1480">LennyBoy</a>.</p>
<p>How many cycle lanes in Christchurch are 1.8m wide? That seems larger then a lot of them appear to be &#8211; correct me if I am wrong. Anyway, thanks for the tip. I already ride on the far right side of the cycle lanes when passing bunched up parked cars for that very reason.</p>
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