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	Comments on: Lincoln Town Centre Plans	</title>
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		By: Rich		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/11/15/lincoln-town-centre-plans/#comment-1439</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing they could change in the short term is the cycle lane markings on Gerald St which only go west with none going east. The central hatched turning space could easily be removed for an eastern cycle lane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing they could change in the short term is the cycle lane markings on Gerald St which only go west with none going east. The central hatched turning space could easily be removed for an eastern cycle lane.</p>
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		By: Rich		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/11/15/lincoln-town-centre-plans/#comment-1438</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2015 18:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The roundabout on Springs Road by the university doesn&#039;t work at 8:55am just before lectures start. Traffic queues all the way back to the supermarket and can can 5 mins to get through, which isnt expected in a country town.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The roundabout on Springs Road by the university doesn&#8217;t work at 8:55am just before lectures start. Traffic queues all the way back to the supermarket and can can 5 mins to get through, which isnt expected in a country town.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 00:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/11/15/lincoln-town-centre-plans/#comment-1436&quot;&gt;Criggie&lt;/a&gt;.

Roundabouts break down if there is an uneven flow distribution (e.g. peak hour in one direction), making it hard for other approaches to get a look in. So what may work perfectly fine during most of the day may suddenly become a big mess come rush hour. At some point, that will be the dominant issue with a site.

Those same peak flows also mean that cyclists and pedestrians often don&#039;t get a safe time to get across either (especially less confident riders and impaired pedestrians) - all that &quot;smooth flow&quot; also means no gaps in traffic. Although roundabouts have a fairly good safety record in general, they can be worse for those walking and cycling. This is particularly an issue for multi-lane roundabouts; well-designed single-lane roundabouts that slow traffic down can still be reasonably OK.

Roundabouts certainly have their place as basic intersections get busier (there&#039;s a couple of locations near my place that I think would benefit everyone from having roundabouts; St Martins/Burnbrae and St Martins/Centaurus). But eventually even they have their limitations in terms of safety/efficiency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/11/15/lincoln-town-centre-plans/#comment-1436">Criggie</a>.</p>
<p>Roundabouts break down if there is an uneven flow distribution (e.g. peak hour in one direction), making it hard for other approaches to get a look in. So what may work perfectly fine during most of the day may suddenly become a big mess come rush hour. At some point, that will be the dominant issue with a site.</p>
<p>Those same peak flows also mean that cyclists and pedestrians often don&#8217;t get a safe time to get across either (especially less confident riders and impaired pedestrians) &#8211; all that &#8220;smooth flow&#8221; also means no gaps in traffic. Although roundabouts have a fairly good safety record in general, they can be worse for those walking and cycling. This is particularly an issue for multi-lane roundabouts; well-designed single-lane roundabouts that slow traffic down can still be reasonably OK.</p>
<p>Roundabouts certainly have their place as basic intersections get busier (there&#8217;s a couple of locations near my place that I think would benefit everyone from having roundabouts; St Martins/Burnbrae and St Martins/Centaurus). But eventually even they have their limitations in terms of safety/efficiency.</p>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/11/15/lincoln-town-centre-plans/#comment-1436</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2015 23:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do so many roundabouts get removed? Are they no longer trendy?   Traffic lights cost money to run and certify, whereas a roundabout needs nothing more than gardening, or maybe a periodic mow.  Roundabouts work well when its steady mixed traffic, but do break down a little in heavy flow from one street.  However traffic lights mean ~half of all cars passing through end up stopped for a period.

What&#039;s wrong with roundabouts that traffic lights do well ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do so many roundabouts get removed? Are they no longer trendy?   Traffic lights cost money to run and certify, whereas a roundabout needs nothing more than gardening, or maybe a periodic mow.  Roundabouts work well when its steady mixed traffic, but do break down a little in heavy flow from one street.  However traffic lights mean ~half of all cars passing through end up stopped for a period.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with roundabouts that traffic lights do well ?</p>
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