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	Comments on: Cycling and the Law: What is a &#8220;Cycle&#8221;?	</title>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138554</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2022 23:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138481&quot;&gt;Rollo Wenlock&lt;/a&gt;.

No pedals?  Its instantly not-a-bike.

Given you have over 300W of power as well, even having pedals would make no difference.  You&#039;re building an **electric car** so if you use it on the road then needs registration and WOF, and require a valid drivers license.  It would also have to drive in the traffic lanes and would be excluded from cycle facilities.  

Consider discussing your plans with one of the LVV certifiers.  There is no motorcycle LVV specialist in Chch, but there is one in Temuka and another in Timaru.  https://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_motorcycles_and_trikes.pdf

There are two LVV general certification guys in Christchurch, but neither does Electric according to the list.  The nearest Electric guy is Dunedin according to https://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_website_general_motor_vehicles.pdf
I suggest you run your plans past one of them for discussion - not sure what they cost per hour.

If you only ever use it on private property only then there are no rules and you can do what you want.  Note, a park is public property, as is a beach or a riverbed.

Try talking to someone who rides a motorcycle trike.  Many of them are converted &quot;cars&quot; and the builders have experience with meeting the legal requirements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138481">Rollo Wenlock</a>.</p>
<p>No pedals?  Its instantly not-a-bike.</p>
<p>Given you have over 300W of power as well, even having pedals would make no difference.  You&#8217;re building an **electric car** so if you use it on the road then needs registration and WOF, and require a valid drivers license.  It would also have to drive in the traffic lanes and would be excluded from cycle facilities.  </p>
<p>Consider discussing your plans with one of the LVV certifiers.  There is no motorcycle LVV specialist in Chch, but there is one in Temuka and another in Timaru.  <a href="https://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_motorcycles_and_trikes.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_motorcycles_and_trikes.pdf</a></p>
<p>There are two LVV general certification guys in Christchurch, but neither does Electric according to the list.  The nearest Electric guy is Dunedin according to <a href="https://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_website_general_motor_vehicles.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lvvta.org.nz/documents/suplementary_information/certifier_lists/lvv_certifier_list_website_general_motor_vehicles.pdf</a><br />
I suggest you run your plans past one of them for discussion &#8211; not sure what they cost per hour.</p>
<p>If you only ever use it on private property only then there are no rules and you can do what you want.  Note, a park is public property, as is a beach or a riverbed.</p>
<p>Try talking to someone who rides a motorcycle trike.  Many of them are converted &#8220;cars&#8221; and the builders have experience with meeting the legal requirements.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138498</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2022 10:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138481&quot;&gt;Rollo Wenlock&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Rollo, a 4-wheeled vehicle with a 2kW motor is basically a motor vehicle. It doesn&#039;t meet the requirements for definitions of cycles, wheeled recreational devices, mopeds or motorcycles due to its motor size or number of wheels. In theory this means that to operate it on the road you would need to get it registered and properly warranted - probably difficult considering it is likely to be missing some of the required vehicle systems expected of a motor vehicle. So in practice you would need to limit your use of this &quot;vehicle&quot; to off-road locations...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138481">Rollo Wenlock</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Rollo, a 4-wheeled vehicle with a 2kW motor is basically a motor vehicle. It doesn&#8217;t meet the requirements for definitions of cycles, wheeled recreational devices, mopeds or motorcycles due to its motor size or number of wheels. In theory this means that to operate it on the road you would need to get it registered and properly warranted &#8211; probably difficult considering it is likely to be missing some of the required vehicle systems expected of a motor vehicle. So in practice you would need to limit your use of this &#8220;vehicle&#8221; to off-road locations&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rollo Wenlock		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-138481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rollo Wenlock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 04:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, I&#039;m making a 4 wheeled bike car type thing with 20&quot; BMX wheels and no pedals. It&#039;ll be powered by a 2kw electric motor and have seats for two adults or one adult and two kids. Would you know how I should classify this? Are there size limitations etc to be in the bike lane? Should I NOT be in the bike lane because I&#039;m not pedalling? 1.1m wide, 2m long, and 1.5m tall]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m making a 4 wheeled bike car type thing with 20&#8243; BMX wheels and no pedals. It&#8217;ll be powered by a 2kw electric motor and have seats for two adults or one adult and two kids. Would you know how I should classify this? Are there size limitations etc to be in the bike lane? Should I NOT be in the bike lane because I&#8217;m not pedalling? 1.1m wide, 2m long, and 1.5m tall</p>
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		By: Lennyboy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-4133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2017 07:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-4107&quot;&gt;Criggie&lt;/a&gt;.

You might want to have a look at NZTA Research Report 621 on e-bikes and other low powered devices for more info (https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/research/reports/621/), but in a nutshell: (1) an e-bike has to be propelled predominantly using pedal power (i.e. not just pedals as vestigial decorations), so most scooter-style electric cycles would be considered a moped; there is NZ case law on this. (2) The law only refers to &quot;cycles&quot; (except for that weird bike-helmet clause), so a bike towing a trailer is still a cycle. (3) a uni-cycle would be a &quot;wheeled recreational device&quot;; cycles have at least 2 wheels.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-4107">Criggie</a>.</p>
<p>You might want to have a look at NZTA Research Report 621 on e-bikes and other low powered devices for more info (<a href="https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/research/reports/621/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/research/reports/621/</a>), but in a nutshell: (1) an e-bike has to be propelled predominantly using pedal power (i.e. not just pedals as vestigial decorations), so most scooter-style electric cycles would be considered a moped; there is NZ case law on this. (2) The law only refers to &#8220;cycles&#8221; (except for that weird bike-helmet clause), so a bike towing a trailer is still a cycle. (3) a uni-cycle would be a &#8220;wheeled recreational device&#8221;; cycles have at least 2 wheels.</p>
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		By: Criggie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-4107</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Criggie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2017 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about those electric scooters that have pedals and a max power of 300W ?  The ones styled like a step-through scooter.

Does towing a trailer make your bicycle into a cycle by the above definition?

Unicycles - absolutely have less than two wheels, so where do they sit on the legal spectrum?   One chap here at work has ridden the width of the UK on a unicycle, he commutes to work on it now.

Cameras (gopro/action cameras) on your bike - admissible as evidence ?  A good idea legally?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about those electric scooters that have pedals and a max power of 300W ?  The ones styled like a step-through scooter.</p>
<p>Does towing a trailer make your bicycle into a cycle by the above definition?</p>
<p>Unicycles &#8211; absolutely have less than two wheels, so where do they sit on the legal spectrum?   One chap here at work has ridden the width of the UK on a unicycle, he commutes to work on it now.</p>
<p>Cameras (gopro/action cameras) on your bike &#8211; admissible as evidence ?  A good idea legally?</p>
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		By: willandrewsdesign		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-1417</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willandrewsdesign]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2015 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Glen!  Will keep this link in the toolbox, looks like it will get frequent use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Glen!  Will keep this link in the toolbox, looks like it will get frequent use.</p>
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		By: Clare		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-1416</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clare]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2015 21:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very informative thank you. A motor vehicle overtaking on a double yellow - I wonder how many drivers know that? It might make them less impatient if they knew they were able to do that rather than fume behind a cycle rider ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative thank you. A motor vehicle overtaking on a double yellow &#8211; I wonder how many drivers know that? It might make them less impatient if they knew they were able to do that rather than fume behind a cycle rider &#8230;</p>
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		By: Rich		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/10/29/cycling-and-the-law-what-is-a-cycle/#comment-1415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting post. Thanks. Look forward to seeing the others in the series.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post. Thanks. Look forward to seeing the others in the series.</p>
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