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		By: Adam Lines		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1267</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Lines]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2015 07:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1265&quot;&gt;Rick&lt;/a&gt;.

We do Rick- they were installed a few days ago. I&#039;m glad they did, as the smaller ones which are attached to the posts are rather useless when approaching at speed. We now have about five bike signals on the approach to the interchange!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1265">Rick</a>.</p>
<p>We do Rick- they were installed a few days ago. I&#8217;m glad they did, as the smaller ones which are attached to the posts are rather useless when approaching at speed. We now have about five bike signals on the approach to the interchange!</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1266</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 20:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1265&quot;&gt;Rick&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, they&#039;re starting to be trialled in NZ (current legislation doesn&#039;t allow for them)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1265">Rick</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, they&#8217;re starting to be trialled in NZ (current legislation doesn&#8217;t allow for them)</p>
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		By: Rick		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 20:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s all go for bikes at this intersection (note the small cycle signals down below)&quot; Interesting to note that we have the small signals at the intersections around the new Bus Interchange, but do not have the large overhead version.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s all go for bikes at this intersection (note the small cycle signals down below)&#8221; Interesting to note that we have the small signals at the intersections around the new Bus Interchange, but do not have the large overhead version.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1264</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1262&quot;&gt;Non-motorist (@ByTheMotorway)&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the feedback. Yes, after the various town visit descriptions, I am preparing an overall &quot;lessons to learn from The Netherlands&quot; post that certainly encompasses network planning issues. In fact, after the first few cities I was already seeing a consistent trend that just continued to repeat itself everywhere else.

Occasionally we get the chance to do something completely from scratch (like my post about Houten&#039;s planning) and that makes it easier to build in good cycle networks. The challenge is to incorporate them into existing cities (like those in NZ), but it&#039;s the same challenge that the Netherlands faced 40 years ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1262">Non-motorist (@ByTheMotorway)</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback. Yes, after the various town visit descriptions, I am preparing an overall &#8220;lessons to learn from The Netherlands&#8221; post that certainly encompasses network planning issues. In fact, after the first few cities I was already seeing a consistent trend that just continued to repeat itself everywhere else.</p>
<p>Occasionally we get the chance to do something completely from scratch (like my post about Houten&#8217;s planning) and that makes it easier to build in good cycle networks. The challenge is to incorporate them into existing cities (like those in NZ), but it&#8217;s the same challenge that the Netherlands faced 40 years ago.</p>
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		By: Dayna		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/06/07/cycling-in-amsterdam-does-it-live-up-to-the-hype/#comment-1263</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dayna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 12:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great photos and blog. I&#039;m really enjoying reading your posts. Haven&#039;t been to Europe, but I have visited Christchurch a couple of times, at least! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great photos and blog. I&#8217;m really enjoying reading your posts. Haven&#8217;t been to Europe, but I have visited Christchurch a couple of times, at least! 🙂</p>
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		By: Non-motorist (@ByTheMotorway)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 12:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice report, and lucky you had a chance to visit these places.

You&#039;ve naturally highlighted a lot of the interesting eye-level design features, such as cross-sections, in this post. But I&#039;m also curious about your take on the network structure in either Copenhagen or Amsterdam, as experienced on the ground.

For instance, is there any connection between the type of treatment (such as painted lanes) and the path&#039;s role in the wider network? Does the ubiquity of protected paths affect your perception of safety on a painted lane, as a user? Do the alternative routes figure in any way in your trip planning (as is supposed to happen with &quot;quietways&quot;)?

I understand that in the Netherlands at least, there is guidance on how to plan the network across an area, including a principle of spacing or interleaving grids of routes. Was this evident in your experience?

The bits through parks are interesting, especially to see that they avoid shared paths well off-road.

Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice report, and lucky you had a chance to visit these places.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve naturally highlighted a lot of the interesting eye-level design features, such as cross-sections, in this post. But I&#8217;m also curious about your take on the network structure in either Copenhagen or Amsterdam, as experienced on the ground.</p>
<p>For instance, is there any connection between the type of treatment (such as painted lanes) and the path&#8217;s role in the wider network? Does the ubiquity of protected paths affect your perception of safety on a painted lane, as a user? Do the alternative routes figure in any way in your trip planning (as is supposed to happen with &#8220;quietways&#8221;)?</p>
<p>I understand that in the Netherlands at least, there is guidance on how to plan the network across an area, including a principle of spacing or interleaving grids of routes. Was this evident in your experience?</p>
<p>The bits through parks are interesting, especially to see that they avoid shared paths well off-road.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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