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	Comments on: Show me the money &#8211; The Economics of Cycleways	</title>
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		By: Jessica Gibson		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2016 02:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi @Lennyboy,
Am I able to use some of this data for a project on promotion of cycling in CHCH if I cite you and cyclingchristchurch.co.nz?
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi @Lennyboy,<br />
Am I able to use some of this data for a project on promotion of cycling in CHCH if I cite you and cyclingchristchurch.co.nz?<br />
Thanks</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 10:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1140&quot;&gt;Jessica Gibson&lt;/a&gt;.

No problem Jessica. In some cases, it might be better to cite the original sources referred to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1140">Jessica Gibson</a>.</p>
<p>No problem Jessica. In some cases, it might be better to cite the original sources referred to.</p>
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		By: Jessica Gibson		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1140</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica Gibson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 09:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1134&quot;&gt;Simon Barnard&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi @Lennyboy,

Am I able to use some of this data for a project on promotion of cycling in CHCH if I cite you and cyclingchristchurch.co.nz?

Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1134">Simon Barnard</a>.</p>
<p>Hi @Lennyboy,</p>
<p>Am I able to use some of this data for a project on promotion of cycling in CHCH if I cite you and cyclingchristchurch.co.nz?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		By: Max Coyle&#8217;s Submission to Hamilton City Council&#8217;s 10 Year Plan #Ham10YP &#124; Trickle		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max Coyle&#8217;s Submission to Hamilton City Council&#8217;s 10 Year Plan #Ham10YP &#124; Trickle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2015 21:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] us want cycleways anyway? Why do transport experts provide such interesting studies showing their extremely high return on investment and overwhelmingly positive cost/benefit [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] us want cycleways anyway? Why do transport experts provide such interesting studies showing their extremely high return on investment and overwhelmingly positive cost/benefit [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1137&quot;&gt;Chrism&lt;/a&gt;.

Vehicle operating cost savings are considered for motorists who are now less affected by congestion (i.e. less stop-start driving). But I don&#039;t think I can see any reduction in VOC for those who make the mode switch; it&#039;s a fair point. Perhaps it could be argued that it at least matches any increase in travel time, although the model seems to suggest that total travel time for cycling also decreases (hence the &quot;Users&quot; benefits). So, like so many aspects in the analysis, it is conservative in regards to the likely benefits - always useful when finance professors try to pick holes in it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1137">Chrism</a>.</p>
<p>Vehicle operating cost savings are considered for motorists who are now less affected by congestion (i.e. less stop-start driving). But I don&#8217;t think I can see any reduction in VOC for those who make the mode switch; it&#8217;s a fair point. Perhaps it could be argued that it at least matches any increase in travel time, although the model seems to suggest that total travel time for cycling also decreases (hence the &#8220;Users&#8221; benefits). So, like so many aspects in the analysis, it is conservative in regards to the likely benefits &#8211; always useful when finance professors try to pick holes in it&#8230;</p>
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		By: Chrism		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1137</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chrism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2015 23:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems odd to me that the benefits to users have been limited to travel time savings (I may be reading that wrong). People switching from driving to cycling wouldn&#039;t experience huge travel time savings, and for many it would mean increases in travel time. I would&#039;ve thought that the main benefit (apart from health, which has been quantified separately) would be vehicle operating cost savings. Do you know if these have been accounted for anywhere?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems odd to me that the benefits to users have been limited to travel time savings (I may be reading that wrong). People switching from driving to cycling wouldn&#8217;t experience huge travel time savings, and for many it would mean increases in travel time. I would&#8217;ve thought that the main benefit (apart from health, which has been quantified separately) would be vehicle operating cost savings. Do you know if these have been accounted for anywhere?</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1136</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 02:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The City Council recently trumpeted these benefits too: http://www.ccc.govt.nz/thecouncil/newsmedia/mediareleases/2015/201503051.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City Council recently trumpeted these benefits too: <a href="http://www.ccc.govt.nz/thecouncil/newsmedia/mediareleases/2015/201503051.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ccc.govt.nz/thecouncil/newsmedia/mediareleases/2015/201503051.aspx</a></p>
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		By: Bicycle dreams &#124; Rebuilding Christchurch		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1135</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bicycle dreams &#124; Rebuilding Christchurch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] is a really good post on Christchurch&#8217;s future cycling infrastructure. I don&#8217;t have a huge amount to add to [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is a really good post on Christchurch&#8217;s future cycling infrastructure. I don&#8217;t have a huge amount to add to [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Simon Barnard		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2015/02/22/show-me-the-money-the-economics-of-cycleways/#comment-1134</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Barnard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My guess is that the major cycle routes will also benefit local businesses as people who switch from car to cycle will have more money to spend locally. Much of what is spent on fuel, parts, vehicles goes overseas.

People on bicycles can also frequent a local business on their route as stopping and parking are so much easier.

With about 40% of our rates going to roading and about 70% of that just for maintenance the reduced wear and tear from people choosing bicycle over car will help ratepayers.

Finally, many cities have found that they do not need to build hugely expensive roading projects for cars when more people choose to bicycle. Those who think cycle infrastructure is expensive are forgetting the far higher cost of building infrastructure for motorised vehicles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that the major cycle routes will also benefit local businesses as people who switch from car to cycle will have more money to spend locally. Much of what is spent on fuel, parts, vehicles goes overseas.</p>
<p>People on bicycles can also frequent a local business on their route as stopping and parking are so much easier.</p>
<p>With about 40% of our rates going to roading and about 70% of that just for maintenance the reduced wear and tear from people choosing bicycle over car will help ratepayers.</p>
<p>Finally, many cities have found that they do not need to build hugely expensive roading projects for cars when more people choose to bicycle. Those who think cycle infrastructure is expensive are forgetting the far higher cost of building infrastructure for motorised vehicles.</p>
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