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		By: Colin		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1073</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1072&quot;&gt;Keith&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with Keith Glen, and add that the contrast should extend to the shared roads as well to the contrast of the cyclist&#039;s themselves.

Contrasting bright grass-green cycle lanes right through busy intersections and on busy roads remind motorists of the presence of cyclists and make the roads appear narrower (and more attractive), thus encouraging lower speeds and motorists distancing themselves from the green cycle lanes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1072">Keith</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with Keith Glen, and add that the contrast should extend to the shared roads as well to the contrast of the cyclist&#8217;s themselves.</p>
<p>Contrasting bright grass-green cycle lanes right through busy intersections and on busy roads remind motorists of the presence of cyclists and make the roads appear narrower (and more attractive), thus encouraging lower speeds and motorists distancing themselves from the green cycle lanes.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 08:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glen I wonder if you could comment about the factors that improve the visibility of cyclist.  On another forum I am part of I have read that contrast is the key factor to being seen.  Your thoughts or understanding?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen I wonder if you could comment about the factors that improve the visibility of cyclist.  On another forum I am part of I have read that contrast is the key factor to being seen.  Your thoughts or understanding?</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1071</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2014 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1065&quot;&gt;Colin&lt;/a&gt;.

I have actually thought about the exact same thing myself! I am surprised they haven&#039;t done this already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1065">Colin</a>.</p>
<p>I have actually thought about the exact same thing myself! I am surprised they haven&#8217;t done this already.</p>
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		By: Stephen J		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 05:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I note the council site says you can be safer by checking whether your hi-vis gear has faded :-/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note the council site says you can be safer by checking whether your hi-vis gear has faded :-/</p>
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		By: CP		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1069</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1068&quot;&gt;Colin&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s been any findings into cause of Waterloo / Carmen Road intersection death so probably shouldn&#039;t comment however its quite possible that the truck driver had no way to see the cyclist, whether remind or not.  Regardless I think the idea of having more paint through intersections is a really great one. Low cost and potentially very high rewards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1068">Colin</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s been any findings into cause of Waterloo / Carmen Road intersection death so probably shouldn&#8217;t comment however its quite possible that the truck driver had no way to see the cyclist, whether remind or not.  Regardless I think the idea of having more paint through intersections is a really great one. Low cost and potentially very high rewards.</p>
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		By: Colin		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1068</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1067&quot;&gt;LennyBoy&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s exactly the problem. Major intersections guide vehicles to turn across the (eliminated) paths of cyclists.

That&#039;s what happened recently at the Waterloo / Carmen Road intersection ... the truck driver simply forgot about cyclists on the road and turned across the cyclist&#039;s eliminated cycle path. Had bright green cycle lanes continued across the intersection it would have reminded him to lookout for cyclists. Painting the white cycles on the green lanes would be a further reminder.

Can you please use your influence to encourage the council to consider this no-brainer safety addition. Cheers and keep up the good work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1067">LennyBoy</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly the problem. Major intersections guide vehicles to turn across the (eliminated) paths of cyclists.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what happened recently at the Waterloo / Carmen Road intersection &#8230; the truck driver simply forgot about cyclists on the road and turned across the cyclist&#8217;s eliminated cycle path. Had bright green cycle lanes continued across the intersection it would have reminded him to lookout for cyclists. Painting the white cycles on the green lanes would be a further reminder.</p>
<p>Can you please use your influence to encourage the council to consider this no-brainer safety addition. Cheers and keep up the good work.</p>
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		By: LennyBoy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1067</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LennyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2014 00:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1065&quot;&gt;Colin&lt;/a&gt;.

Fair question. If it&#039;s just a side-road along a main road then cycle lanes should be extended right across the side-road entrance, usually with a coloured treatment. But I can think of a few around where that hasn&#039;t happened (perhaps a contractor or designer not realising what is standard practice?).

Through major intersections (e.g. signalised) is another story. Generally the only markings of any kind that have been continued through intersections are lane lines to help guide curved or turning movements correctly through. But I guess, in the same way that pedestrians crosswalks are marked across the front of intersections, we could look at also marking the bikeway crossing paths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1065">Colin</a>.</p>
<p>Fair question. If it&#8217;s just a side-road along a main road then cycle lanes should be extended right across the side-road entrance, usually with a coloured treatment. But I can think of a few around where that hasn&#8217;t happened (perhaps a contractor or designer not realising what is standard practice?).</p>
<p>Through major intersections (e.g. signalised) is another story. Generally the only markings of any kind that have been continued through intersections are lane lines to help guide curved or turning movements correctly through. But I guess, in the same way that pedestrians crosswalks are marked across the front of intersections, we could look at also marking the bikeway crossing paths.</p>
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		By: CP		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1066</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2014 19:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good initiative. Lets hope once &#039;we&#039;, that is cyclists, cars, trucks, pedestrians, etc have been seen by each other that we all act respectfully towards each other]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good initiative. Lets hope once &#8216;we&#8217;, that is cyclists, cars, trucks, pedestrians, etc have been seen by each other that we all act respectfully towards each other</p>
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		By: Colin		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/11/10/do-we-see-each-other-check-again/#comment-1065</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the most dangerous locations for cyclists, and one of the most common areas where motorists forget to look for cyclists, appears to be intersections ... so why do cycle lanes which remind motorists about cyclists end at an intersection and then start again after it?

If that bright new grass green cycle lane painting continued right through intersections that would surely remind everyone at the intersection to look out for cyclists. Surely that&#039;s a no brainer? Can you please inquire if council have a good reason for not painting the cycle lanes through intersections; cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most dangerous locations for cyclists, and one of the most common areas where motorists forget to look for cyclists, appears to be intersections &#8230; so why do cycle lanes which remind motorists about cyclists end at an intersection and then start again after it?</p>
<p>If that bright new grass green cycle lane painting continued right through intersections that would surely remind everyone at the intersection to look out for cyclists. Surely that&#8217;s a no brainer? Can you please inquire if council have a good reason for not painting the cycle lanes through intersections; cheers.</p>
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