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		By: Colin Stokes		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-780</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Stokes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-779&quot;&gt;Alastair Brown&lt;/a&gt;.

Great logical rules to Idaho, thanks! and maybe in a distant future Christchurch. I think mastering a red light left turn &quot;free turn&quot; rule for cyclists giving way to all other traffic/pedestrians is a good start safe point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-779">Alastair Brown</a>.</p>
<p>Great logical rules to Idaho, thanks! and maybe in a distant future Christchurch. I think mastering a red light left turn &#8220;free turn&#8221; rule for cyclists giving way to all other traffic/pedestrians is a good start safe point.</p>
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		By: Alastair Brown		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-779</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-777&quot;&gt;Colin Stokes&lt;/a&gt;.

Brilliant idea, let&#039;s do it!  There&#039;s even a precedent in Idaho:
http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title49/T49CH7SECT49-720.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-777">Colin Stokes</a>.</p>
<p>Brilliant idea, let&#8217;s do it!  There&#8217;s even a precedent in Idaho:<br />
<a href="http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title49/T49CH7SECT49-720.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title49/T49CH7SECT49-720.htm</a></p>
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		By: Alastair Brown		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-778</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-776&quot;&gt;Alastair&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d like to see the red light runners reported on a tonnage basis - on the simple grounds that the more mass there is, the greater danger to other road users.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-776">Alastair</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the red light runners reported on a tonnage basis &#8211; on the simple grounds that the more mass there is, the greater danger to other road users.</p>
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		By: Colin Stokes		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-777</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Stokes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would make good sense to make it legal for cyclist&#039;s to have to obey the &quot;free turn&quot; rule when turning left at a red light. i.e. they have to &quot;give way&quot; to ALL traffic and pedestrians but can proceed if the way is clear.

This makes common sense:  it is not dangerous:  motorist will not then get angry at cyclists &quot;breaking the law&quot; because they wont be:  motorists will be envious instead of angry and encouraged to bike as well to save time from waiting at the lights.  Making cycling as efficient and safe as possible will encourage it and put less cars on our roads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would make good sense to make it legal for cyclist&#8217;s to have to obey the &#8220;free turn&#8221; rule when turning left at a red light. i.e. they have to &#8220;give way&#8221; to ALL traffic and pedestrians but can proceed if the way is clear.</p>
<p>This makes common sense:  it is not dangerous:  motorist will not then get angry at cyclists &#8220;breaking the law&#8221; because they wont be:  motorists will be envious instead of angry and encouraged to bike as well to save time from waiting at the lights.  Making cycling as efficient and safe as possible will encourage it and put less cars on our roads.</p>
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		By: Alastair		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding the red light issue, I recently counted &quot;red light runners&quot; at a Wellington intersection. Bicycles and motor vehicles ran the light at about the same rates. http://cyclingwellington.co.nz/2013/12/cyclists-are-always-running-red-lights/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the red light issue, I recently counted &#8220;red light runners&#8221; at a Wellington intersection. Bicycles and motor vehicles ran the light at about the same rates. <a href="http://cyclingwellington.co.nz/2013/12/cyclists-are-always-running-red-lights/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://cyclingwellington.co.nz/2013/12/cyclists-are-always-running-red-lights/</a></p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-775</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why are group&#039;s of cyclists referred to as packs?  This suggests aggression and a predatory behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are group&#8217;s of cyclists referred to as packs?  This suggests aggression and a predatory behavior.</p>
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		By: Colin Stokes		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-774</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Stokes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2014 01:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Press in the Christchurch headlines read:-
&quot;Developers: council caving in to resident&quot;
&quot;Surprise subdivision changes rile residents&quot;
&quot;Housing project conflict needs mediation&quot;
&quot;Probe into subdivision&#039;s roads&quot;

The headlines should/could have read:-
&quot;Council eliminates cycle lanes required by their own and NZ Safety Standards: Independent Safety Audit identifies 10 serious and significant frequent death and serious injury safety issues.&quot;

Shame on The Press and the media for not bringing these dangers to the attention of the public. Yet they&#039;d be lining up for a scoop on the first of the forecast deaths.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Press in the Christchurch headlines read:-<br />
&#8220;Developers: council caving in to resident&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Surprise subdivision changes rile residents&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Housing project conflict needs mediation&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Probe into subdivision&#8217;s roads&#8221;</p>
<p>The headlines should/could have read:-<br />
&#8220;Council eliminates cycle lanes required by their own and NZ Safety Standards: Independent Safety Audit identifies 10 serious and significant frequent death and serious injury safety issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shame on The Press and the media for not bringing these dangers to the attention of the public. Yet they&#8217;d be lining up for a scoop on the first of the forecast deaths.</p>
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		By: Elaine		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-773</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ODT in Dunedin is just as bad for their journalism. In their coverage of the NZTA&#039;s proposed changes to the one-ways to include a separated bike lane the headline could/should have read &quot;Great news, NZTA to investigate ways to make cycling safer and prevent death&quot;. However, instead it read &quot;Parking slashed in cycle lane plan&quot; with the first sentence reading, &#039;Between 200 and 400 parks on the central Dunedin one-way system will be removed and replaced by dedicated cycle lanes if a new plan by the New Zealand Transport Agency goes ahead&#039;. All this did was &#039;anger&#039; car drivers and initiate a fury of comments online and through the letters to the editor about how ridiculous it is to lose car parks for the few cyclists that use the roads. In their defence the ODT has published articles discussing the issues from the cyclists perspective but they are not written by their journalists. I believe the media continues to fuel the animosity between some car drivers and some cyclists - but this is probably what sells the paper!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ODT in Dunedin is just as bad for their journalism. In their coverage of the NZTA&#8217;s proposed changes to the one-ways to include a separated bike lane the headline could/should have read &#8220;Great news, NZTA to investigate ways to make cycling safer and prevent death&#8221;. However, instead it read &#8220;Parking slashed in cycle lane plan&#8221; with the first sentence reading, &#8216;Between 200 and 400 parks on the central Dunedin one-way system will be removed and replaced by dedicated cycle lanes if a new plan by the New Zealand Transport Agency goes ahead&#8217;. All this did was &#8216;anger&#8217; car drivers and initiate a fury of comments online and through the letters to the editor about how ridiculous it is to lose car parks for the few cyclists that use the roads. In their defence the ODT has published articles discussing the issues from the cyclists perspective but they are not written by their journalists. I believe the media continues to fuel the animosity between some car drivers and some cyclists &#8211; but this is probably what sells the paper!</p>
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		By: Colin Stokes		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin Stokes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-770&quot;&gt;richelle&lt;/a&gt;.

The media is only interested when people are killed or injured riding bikes.

I&#039;ve tried for 4 years to expose through the media the dangers of the grossly non-complying roads that CCC &#038; NZTA knowingly approved in the new Living G Yaldhurst subdivision. The media &#038; The Press were not interested in publishing the facts and dangers. Finally the out-going Council were pressured by the at risk public to seek an independent safety audit that confirmed &quot;10 (ten) serious and significant frequent death and serious injury safety issues&quot;. STILL the media and The Press are not interested.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-770">richelle</a>.</p>
<p>The media is only interested when people are killed or injured riding bikes.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried for 4 years to expose through the media the dangers of the grossly non-complying roads that CCC &amp; NZTA knowingly approved in the new Living G Yaldhurst subdivision. The media &amp; The Press were not interested in publishing the facts and dangers. Finally the out-going Council were pressured by the at risk public to seek an independent safety audit that confirmed &#8220;10 (ten) serious and significant frequent death and serious injury safety issues&#8221;. STILL the media and The Press are not interested.</p>
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		By: Doug		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-770&quot;&gt;richelle&lt;/a&gt;.

I’ve heard similar comments about riding helping with depression several times. I stopped riding for a few years due to living in a place with poor road conditions. Now I’m riding regularly again, I can see that period matched a decline in my mental health. Sometimes I try to figure out why. The benefits of exercise are part of it, but I’m pretty sure there is something deeper going on. I would argue that a community where you feel free to walk or ride around, and see other people doing the same, feels a lot less aggressive and lonely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2014/01/17/cycling-safety-and-the-media/#comment-770">richelle</a>.</p>
<p>I’ve heard similar comments about riding helping with depression several times. I stopped riding for a few years due to living in a place with poor road conditions. Now I’m riding regularly again, I can see that period matched a decline in my mental health. Sometimes I try to figure out why. The benefits of exercise are part of it, but I’m pretty sure there is something deeper going on. I would argue that a community where you feel free to walk or ride around, and see other people doing the same, feels a lot less aggressive and lonely.</p>
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