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	Comments on: Major Cycleways &#8211; We&#8217;re on our Way!	</title>
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		By: Lennyboy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-709</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2013 00:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The City Council have now released some more info about the cycleways, including route descriptions and Frequently Asked Questions - see http://www.ccc.govt.nz/cityleisure/projectstoimprovechristchurch/transport/cycleways/index.aspx]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City Council have now released some more info about the cycleways, including route descriptions and Frequently Asked Questions &#8211; see <a href="http://www.ccc.govt.nz/cityleisure/projectstoimprovechristchurch/transport/cycleways/index.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.ccc.govt.nz/cityleisure/projectstoimprovechristchurch/transport/cycleways/index.aspx</a></p>
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		By: ****ing Andrew		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-708</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[****ing Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-707&quot;&gt;Lennyboy&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you aware you can cycle almost 2/3 of the way from St Martins to Brighton off road on council land? How are those using the Bexley Park facilities going to get there? How do you get from St Martins to Bottle Lake or Brighton to the hills? How does the kid in Aranui get to work in Bromley? 
The Heathcote river route isn&#039;t broken and we don&#039;t need a cotton wool padded corridor to nowhere, it&#039;s as much help as race track to solve gridlock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-707">Lennyboy</a>.</p>
<p>Are you aware you can cycle almost 2/3 of the way from St Martins to Brighton off road on council land? How are those using the Bexley Park facilities going to get there? How do you get from St Martins to Bottle Lake or Brighton to the hills? How does the kid in Aranui get to work in Bromley?<br />
The Heathcote river route isn&#8217;t broken and we don&#8217;t need a cotton wool padded corridor to nowhere, it&#8217;s as much help as race track to solve gridlock.</p>
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		By: Lennyboy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-707</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-706&quot;&gt;****ing Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

There are 2-3 of the planned routes that are somewhat recreational; this is one of them. Not all cycle trips are utilitarian and we will probably attract some new riders via casual scenic rides first. As the map indicates, large parts of this one are already there, but it does need work to be acceptable to &quot;all ages and abilities&quot;, e.g. missing links, wider paths, major road crossings, route signage. And, like the Avon River route, it may be that some shortcut links can also be enhanced and highlighted to avoid some of the river loops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-706">****ing Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>There are 2-3 of the planned routes that are somewhat recreational; this is one of them. Not all cycle trips are utilitarian and we will probably attract some new riders via casual scenic rides first. As the map indicates, large parts of this one are already there, but it does need work to be acceptable to &#8220;all ages and abilities&#8221;, e.g. missing links, wider paths, major road crossings, route signage. And, like the Avon River route, it may be that some shortcut links can also be enhanced and highlighted to avoid some of the river loops.</p>
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		By: ****ing Andrew		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-706</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[****ing Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 07:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I ride Heathcote river route&#039;s ultimate direction often taking in parts of it and it&#039;s about as good as it gets for quiet, safe and scenic cycling in Ch-Ch.
It&#039;s of so little practical use practical it shouldn&#039;t even be considered a &#039;cycleway&#039; and a wicked waste of limited resources that would be far better utilized elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ride Heathcote river route&#8217;s ultimate direction often taking in parts of it and it&#8217;s about as good as it gets for quiet, safe and scenic cycling in Ch-Ch.<br />
It&#8217;s of so little practical use practical it shouldn&#8217;t even be considered a &#8216;cycleway&#8217; and a wicked waste of limited resources that would be far better utilized elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Lennyboy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-705</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-704&quot;&gt;Jaimita&lt;/a&gt;.

Jaimita, that&#039;s an ongoing work in progress too, with discussions with Council/NZTA/SCIRT and their contractors, e.g. see http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/general-a2b-by-bike/road-works-around-the-rebuild/. But you can also let them know directly when they&#039;re not doing their job by various ways; see our advice at http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/cycle-infrastructure/who-ya-gonna-call/ - they&#039;re pretty prompt if it&#039;s a safety issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-704">Jaimita</a>.</p>
<p>Jaimita, that&#8217;s an ongoing work in progress too, with discussions with Council/NZTA/SCIRT and their contractors, e.g. see <a href="http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/general-a2b-by-bike/road-works-around-the-rebuild/" rel="ugc">http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/general-a2b-by-bike/road-works-around-the-rebuild/</a>. But you can also let them know directly when they&#8217;re not doing their job by various ways; see our advice at <a href="http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/cycle-infrastructure/who-ya-gonna-call/" rel="ugc">http://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/cycle-infrastructure/who-ya-gonna-call/</a> &#8211; they&#8217;re pretty prompt if it&#8217;s a safety issue.</p>
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		By: Jaimita		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-704</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jaimita]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 02:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a great idea but what&#039;s the point of having cycle lanes/ cycle paths if they are always full of road work signs and glass lies there for weeks because they are not sweeped after the weekend? If we can&#039;t make the existing ones safe and effective, why spend money on new ones?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a great idea but what&#8217;s the point of having cycle lanes/ cycle paths if they are always full of road work signs and glass lies there for weeks because they are not sweeped after the weekend? If we can&#8217;t make the existing ones safe and effective, why spend money on new ones?</p>
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		By: Lennyboy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-703</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 01:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-699&quot;&gt;nat@skatefurther.com&lt;/a&gt;.

Nat, the photos give you an idea of what you might expect. So yes, I&#039;d expect them all to be paved. Indeed, some will be existing quiet streets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-699">nat@skatefurther.com</a>.</p>
<p>Nat, the photos give you an idea of what you might expect. So yes, I&#8217;d expect them all to be paved. Indeed, some will be existing quiet streets.</p>
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		By: Lennyboy		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lennyboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-701&quot;&gt;Gregor Ronald&lt;/a&gt;.

Fair comment Gregor, although bear in mind there is a wider network of cycle routes that will also complement these initial 13 cycleways. Also not shown is that there will be a cycleway alongside the planned Northern Arterial (probably similar to the Sthn M&#039;way one) - see http://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/northern-arterial/ for info. And the Highfield Park development just off Marshlands Rd is likely to include some cycle-friendly routes too - see http://www.highfieldpark.co.nz. But I&#039;ll keep it in mind when we&#039;re looking at quick wins too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-701">Gregor Ronald</a>.</p>
<p>Fair comment Gregor, although bear in mind there is a wider network of cycle routes that will also complement these initial 13 cycleways. Also not shown is that there will be a cycleway alongside the planned Northern Arterial (probably similar to the Sthn M&#8217;way one) &#8211; see <a href="http://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/northern-arterial/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nzta.govt.nz/projects/northern-arterial/</a> for info. And the Highfield Park development just off Marshlands Rd is likely to include some cycle-friendly routes too &#8211; see <a href="http://www.highfieldpark.co.nz" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.highfieldpark.co.nz</a>. But I&#8217;ll keep it in mind when we&#8217;re looking at quick wins too.</p>
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		By: Gregor Ronald		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregor Ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The NE area of town from QE2 Drive north has no routes marked - yet hundreds of cyclists bike to Bottle Lake every weekend. Will they have to continue dodging the trucks going to the Burwood landfill?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NE area of town from QE2 Drive north has no routes marked &#8211; yet hundreds of cyclists bike to Bottle Lake every weekend. Will they have to continue dodging the trucks going to the Burwood landfill?</p>
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		By: John McD		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2013/11/13/major-cycleways-were-on-our-way/#comment-700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really, really pleased to hear the update. Well done for all involved and keep up the good work, whether in council, as contributors or commenters. All making a valuable difference.  

I&#039;ll have a think about the naming competition. Nice chance for some creativity I think. Can I enter 13 times???

For the quick wins, I&#039;m thinking stuff that raises profile of biking to all in Chch. Eg better and more bike parks at retail, work and leisure places. Don&#039;t hide them away in inconvenient places, let people see the advantages of encouraging bikes even if they don&#039;t ride themselves. No more chained to railings, benches and drain pipes!

Cheers :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, really pleased to hear the update. Well done for all involved and keep up the good work, whether in council, as contributors or commenters. All making a valuable difference.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have a think about the naming competition. Nice chance for some creativity I think. Can I enter 13 times???</p>
<p>For the quick wins, I&#8217;m thinking stuff that raises profile of biking to all in Chch. Eg better and more bike parks at retail, work and leisure places. Don&#8217;t hide them away in inconvenient places, let people see the advantages of encouraging bikes even if they don&#8217;t ride themselves. No more chained to railings, benches and drain pipes!</p>
<p>Cheers 🙂</p>
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