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	Comments on: Hagley Park &#8211; Twisted Priorities	</title>
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		By: Alastair Brown		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/11/01/hagley-park-twisted-priorities/#comment-182</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair Brown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 22:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t is strange how there&#039;s such a disconnection between what we pedestrians/cyclists think of as common sense and what STMS people think of &#039;best-practice&#039;?  I&#039;m not sure that we should be blaming CCC though, I think all this was out sourced to MacDow.  Fortunately all this silliness has been dismantled and we&#039;ve now got that part of our park back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t is strange how there&#8217;s such a disconnection between what we pedestrians/cyclists think of as common sense and what STMS people think of &#8216;best-practice&#8217;?  I&#8217;m not sure that we should be blaming CCC though, I think all this was out sourced to MacDow.  Fortunately all this silliness has been dismantled and we&#8217;ve now got that part of our park back.</p>
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		By: CP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 20:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few more painted cycle &#038; pedestrian symbols on the paths would help too. Frequently need to say excuse me please (followed by thanks) because walkers are 2 or 3 wide heading same direction I am. Ok swinging onto grass on MTB but road bike onto the grass across the rough asphalt or wooden edge can be trecherous. Many people forget or don&#039;t know they&#039;re shared use. Although never going to be complete fix as they&#039;re recently repainted the symbols &#038; line by the hospital but pedestrians still walk wrong side or stand right in the gap between the fence &#038; light/power poles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few more painted cycle &amp; pedestrian symbols on the paths would help too. Frequently need to say excuse me please (followed by thanks) because walkers are 2 or 3 wide heading same direction I am. Ok swinging onto grass on MTB but road bike onto the grass across the rough asphalt or wooden edge can be trecherous. Many people forget or don&#8217;t know they&#8217;re shared use. Although never going to be complete fix as they&#8217;re recently repainted the symbols &amp; line by the hospital but pedestrians still walk wrong side or stand right in the gap between the fence &amp; light/power poles.</p>
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		By: Cyclomaniac		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/11/01/hagley-park-twisted-priorities/#comment-180</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 07:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree Tom. The CCC has been a great advocate for cycling, much more than the current government and might be entitled to some support from the cycling community. However, the challenge for the CCC is translating these glossy pictures and ambitious plans to actually encourage people to take-up cycling and encourage active cyclists to keep cycling. Yes for some for these projects we need to be (very) patient. However, there a lots of opportunities for the council to show off is cycle friendliness  and making a difference for cyclists right here, right now!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Tom. The CCC has been a great advocate for cycling, much more than the current government and might be entitled to some support from the cycling community. However, the challenge for the CCC is translating these glossy pictures and ambitious plans to actually encourage people to take-up cycling and encourage active cyclists to keep cycling. Yes for some for these projects we need to be (very) patient. However, there a lots of opportunities for the council to show off is cycle friendliness  and making a difference for cyclists right here, right now!</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/11/01/hagley-park-twisted-priorities/#comment-179</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pretty twisted thinking by CCC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty twisted thinking by CCC.</p>
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		By: Jim Slim		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/11/01/hagley-park-twisted-priorities/#comment-178</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 22:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agree 100%.  How different from cities that take cycling seriously like Copenhagen where temporary tarmac is laid around roadworks to save cyclists bumping up and down kerbs.
The permanent give ways across roads into the park are even more ridiculous.  Re-site the give way signs on the road, paint a few Dutch style shark&#039;s teeth on the road each side of the bike track and it&#039;s all over.  One afternoon&#039;s work?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree 100%.  How different from cities that take cycling seriously like Copenhagen where temporary tarmac is laid around roadworks to save cyclists bumping up and down kerbs.<br />
The permanent give ways across roads into the park are even more ridiculous.  Re-site the give way signs on the road, paint a few Dutch style shark&#8217;s teeth on the road each side of the bike track and it&#8217;s all over.  One afternoon&#8217;s work?</p>
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		By: Chrys		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/11/01/hagley-park-twisted-priorities/#comment-177</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chrys]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I could&#039;t agree with this assessment more, Lennyboy!  one of the times where there are actually way more pedestrians and cyclists than motorists so it makes much more sense that the motorists should give way.  
I&#039;m one of the people who has voted with their tyres - getting round those jolly orange nets is a pain - easier to just avoid them the way everyone else has.

Grrrf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could&#8217;t agree with this assessment more, Lennyboy!  one of the times where there are actually way more pedestrians and cyclists than motorists so it makes much more sense that the motorists should give way.<br />
I&#8217;m one of the people who has voted with their tyres &#8211; getting round those jolly orange nets is a pain &#8211; easier to just avoid them the way everyone else has.</p>
<p>Grrrf</p>
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