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		By: Cyclomaniac		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-120</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 09:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mandatory bicycle helmet law in New Zealand.. Less cyclists have been injured and have died since the introduction of the 1994 helmet law in NZ. But why?

http://www.cycle-helmets.com/zealand_helmets.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandatory bicycle helmet law in New Zealand.. Less cyclists have been injured and have died since the introduction of the 1994 helmet law in NZ. But why?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cycle-helmets.com/zealand_helmets.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cycle-helmets.com/zealand_helmets.html</a></p>
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		By: Chris Glover Kapiti Coast NZ		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Glover Kapiti Coast NZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2015 23:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m totally against helmet laws and pushbike helmets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m totally against helmet laws and pushbike helmets.</p>
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		By: Cyclomaniac		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclomaniac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2014 07:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some support for helmet choice from an unexpected source:
www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1408/S00296/acts-plan-to-double-cycle-use-without-spending-taxes.htm

I suppose we could contemplate doing both the $ 100 million investment and offer helmet choice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some support for helmet choice from an unexpected source:<br />
<a href="http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1408/S00296/acts-plan-to-double-cycle-use-without-spending-taxes.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1408/S00296/acts-plan-to-double-cycle-use-without-spending-taxes.htm</a></p>
<p>I suppose we could contemplate doing both the $ 100 million investment and offer helmet choice.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-117</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The last 2 comments seem to think that bicycle helmets are designed for high speed crashes of incidents involving motor vehicles. Unlike motorcycle helmets, they&#039;re not! They make virtually no difference, and there&#039;s a reason that the safest countries to ride a bicycle have no helmets or hi vis. In Europe, we learn how compulsory safety gear makes cycling more dangerous. In Germany, maybe 1 of every 7 or 8 bicyclist wear a helmet and that is considered a huge amount compared to elsewhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last 2 comments seem to think that bicycle helmets are designed for high speed crashes of incidents involving motor vehicles. Unlike motorcycle helmets, they&#8217;re not! They make virtually no difference, and there&#8217;s a reason that the safest countries to ride a bicycle have no helmets or hi vis. In Europe, we learn how compulsory safety gear makes cycling more dangerous. In Germany, maybe 1 of every 7 or 8 bicyclist wear a helmet and that is considered a huge amount compared to elsewhere.</p>
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		By: Dobbyn		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-116</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dobbyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re kidding right?  Please keep helmets as compulsory equipment. 
 While they are an ambulance as opposed to a fence,  I&#039;d rather have an ambulance than not.
OK, enough mangled metaphors.
If people are worried about the fashion statement of helmets, and if this view is seriously a barrier to cycle use, I agree with it.  We want awake, alert people who share with care, not people who are worried about how they look.  After all, who actually looks good on a bike?
I don&#039;t want more people on bikes, I want more intelligent people on bikes.
If you&#039;re too vain or stupid to acknowledge the role of an ambulance, stay in your car.
We must not endorse anything like &#039;let he who rides decide&#039;, and we must advocate for mandatory safety equipment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re kidding right?  Please keep helmets as compulsory equipment.<br />
 While they are an ambulance as opposed to a fence,  I&#8217;d rather have an ambulance than not.<br />
OK, enough mangled metaphors.<br />
If people are worried about the fashion statement of helmets, and if this view is seriously a barrier to cycle use, I agree with it.  We want awake, alert people who share with care, not people who are worried about how they look.  After all, who actually looks good on a bike?<br />
I don&#8217;t want more people on bikes, I want more intelligent people on bikes.<br />
If you&#8217;re too vain or stupid to acknowledge the role of an ambulance, stay in your car.<br />
We must not endorse anything like &#8216;let he who rides decide&#8217;, and we must advocate for mandatory safety equipment.</p>
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		By: Ti mbo		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-115</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ti mbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone come across a kid who has been knocked off their bike, head speared into the gutter?
Has anyone seen the effect of a head hitting the ground at 45kph?
Has anyone felt the impact of being cut-up by a car turning left whiulst communting to work?
Has anyone heard of the &quot;Darwin awards&#039;?
Perhaps those who advocate not wearing a helmut also are secret creationists at heart?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone come across a kid who has been knocked off their bike, head speared into the gutter?<br />
Has anyone seen the effect of a head hitting the ground at 45kph?<br />
Has anyone felt the impact of being cut-up by a car turning left whiulst communting to work?<br />
Has anyone heard of the &#8220;Darwin awards&#8217;?<br />
Perhaps those who advocate not wearing a helmut also are secret creationists at heart?</p>
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		By: mia m-b		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-114</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mia m-b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[biking what a bliss,moving to lyttleton,i discovered the joy of going down the hill, it&#039;s fun ,however it s becoming more urgent ,that i get my brake fixed,i try the shop in colombo st but they cant help til 8 january,i heard someone fixe bike in lyttleton but the info office is stil closed .any suggestion ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biking what a bliss,moving to lyttleton,i discovered the joy of going down the hill, it&#8217;s fun ,however it s becoming more urgent ,that i get my brake fixed,i try the shop in colombo st but they cant help til 8 january,i heard someone fixe bike in lyttleton but the info office is stil closed .any suggestion ?</p>
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		By: Chris Lynch		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-113</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Lynch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 06:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi folks, we&#039;re discussing the issue of helmet wearing tomorrow! Love to get your calls on this after 8.40am on Newstalk ZB we&#039;ll be on 03 340 10 98! Cheers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks, we&#8217;re discussing the issue of helmet wearing tomorrow! Love to get your calls on this after 8.40am on Newstalk ZB we&#8217;ll be on 03 340 10 98! Cheers!</p>
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		By: Captain Haddock		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captain Haddock]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 09:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know I have had plenty of crashes on motorcycles and cycles and I have never hit my head on the ground. The body seems to naturally keep it from smashing as it is a sensitive area.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I have had plenty of crashes on motorcycles and cycles and I have never hit my head on the ground. The body seems to naturally keep it from smashing as it is a sensitive area.</p>
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		By: NigelToo		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/10/04/we-support-helmet-choice/#comment-111</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NigelToo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peter, I see what your last comment was getting at now.

A marketing campaign is not a conspiracy, why would you think it is?

There is an ad on TV at the moment designed to sell hand wash, it shows a kid playing in the mud and has mum saying &quot;I need to keep him safe for all those germs&quot;. I bet you grew up playing in the dirt without needing special hand wash, I know I did :-) The ad is just selling a product by creating a perceived need. It&#039;s not a conspiracy.

The helmet campaign was designed to create a perceived need for helmets, how do you do that? Well their choice was to make folks think cycling is dangerous, and they were very successful in doing that - decades later cyclists are still saying they need to be protected, and parents are stopping kids cycling because its too dangerous! It wasn&#039;t a conspiracy, it&#039;s just marketing.

In the early/mid 2000&#039;s the LTNZ/LTSA (they change their name so often!) were charged with trying to increase cycling as part of then government policy. However it was rather hard as they&#039;d just spent years telling everyone it was dangerous and at a public meeting in Christchurch they stated they&#039;d &quot;shot themselves in the foot&quot; with the helmet campaign - a rare moment of honesty.

There was no conspiracy, just marketing which created a myth. And today we have cycle advocates who keep insisting on fueling that myth, as the LTSA would say &quot;shooting themselves in the foot&quot;.

Meanwhile every 30 mins the Government fines someone to maintain the myth... That&#039;s not a conspiracy either, its politics.

[Donning flame suit :-)] The only possible conspiracy here would be a &quot;conspiracy of silence&quot; from CAN who implicitly support fining a cyclist every 30 mins...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I see what your last comment was getting at now.</p>
<p>A marketing campaign is not a conspiracy, why would you think it is?</p>
<p>There is an ad on TV at the moment designed to sell hand wash, it shows a kid playing in the mud and has mum saying &#8220;I need to keep him safe for all those germs&#8221;. I bet you grew up playing in the dirt without needing special hand wash, I know I did 🙂 The ad is just selling a product by creating a perceived need. It&#8217;s not a conspiracy.</p>
<p>The helmet campaign was designed to create a perceived need for helmets, how do you do that? Well their choice was to make folks think cycling is dangerous, and they were very successful in doing that &#8211; decades later cyclists are still saying they need to be protected, and parents are stopping kids cycling because its too dangerous! It wasn&#8217;t a conspiracy, it&#8217;s just marketing.</p>
<p>In the early/mid 2000&#8217;s the LTNZ/LTSA (they change their name so often!) were charged with trying to increase cycling as part of then government policy. However it was rather hard as they&#8217;d just spent years telling everyone it was dangerous and at a public meeting in Christchurch they stated they&#8217;d &#8220;shot themselves in the foot&#8221; with the helmet campaign &#8211; a rare moment of honesty.</p>
<p>There was no conspiracy, just marketing which created a myth. And today we have cycle advocates who keep insisting on fueling that myth, as the LTSA would say &#8220;shooting themselves in the foot&#8221;.</p>
<p>Meanwhile every 30 mins the Government fines someone to maintain the myth&#8230; That&#8217;s not a conspiracy either, its politics.</p>
<p>[Donning flame suit :-)] The only possible conspiracy here would be a &#8220;conspiracy of silence&#8221; from CAN who implicitly support fining a cyclist every 30 mins&#8230;</p>
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