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		By: Bruce White		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-48</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bruce White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-46&quot;&gt;Robert&lt;/a&gt;.

Better still would have been an underpass underneath Marshlands Road, like the rather under-used but brilliantly cheap option made of shipping containers for Hills Road passing under QEII Drive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-46">Robert</a>.</p>
<p>Better still would have been an underpass underneath Marshlands Road, like the rather under-used but brilliantly cheap option made of shipping containers for Hills Road passing under QEII Drive.</p>
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		By: Stephanie		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-47</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry, these options just don&#039;t make the grade. Separate cycle lanes means just that. To encourage cyclists back on their bikes we need cycleways that aren&#039;t just stuck on the side of roads.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, these options just don&#8217;t make the grade. Separate cycle lanes means just that. To encourage cyclists back on their bikes we need cycleways that aren&#8217;t just stuck on the side of roads.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-46</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 09:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whilst continuous kerbing to completely separate cycles from vehicular traffic is most ideal , anything is always better than nothing at all  . Some of the ideas above look pretty good to reduce the danger at certain black spots. Hopefully many can be implemented inexpensively , and reasonably quickly to give  
encouragement. Many of the road markings added in recent years have been very helpful.  The Marshland Road / QE II drive intersection re-development completed recently is now very good for cycle traffic heading east/west. There is a long way to go , but every little bit helps .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst continuous kerbing to completely separate cycles from vehicular traffic is most ideal , anything is always better than nothing at all  . Some of the ideas above look pretty good to reduce the danger at certain black spots. Hopefully many can be implemented inexpensively , and reasonably quickly to give<br />
encouragement. Many of the road markings added in recent years have been very helpful.  The Marshland Road / QE II drive intersection re-development completed recently is now very good for cycle traffic heading east/west. There is a long way to go , but every little bit helps .</p>
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		By: Alastair		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-45</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 05:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s quite important that the separators don&#039;t prevent cyclists from using the optimum route. The Kotare St example looks like I&#039;d be forced to be closer to the kerb than I&#039;d like to be. There&#039;s not much room to avoid debris, potholes, etc.

But it certainly looks like a simple way to give cyclists more confidence that a cycle lane is offering some protection.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s quite important that the separators don&#8217;t prevent cyclists from using the optimum route. The Kotare St example looks like I&#8217;d be forced to be closer to the kerb than I&#8217;d like to be. There&#8217;s not much room to avoid debris, potholes, etc.</p>
<p>But it certainly looks like a simple way to give cyclists more confidence that a cycle lane is offering some protection.</p>
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		By: Ash		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-44</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 03:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am in favour of these types of separators, probably the least intrusive ones foremost. I&#039;m quite impressed with the pictures of what&#039;s starting to be rolled out in Auckland.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in favour of these types of separators, probably the least intrusive ones foremost. I&#8217;m quite impressed with the pictures of what&#8217;s starting to be rolled out in Auckland.</p>
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		By: Frabj		</title>
		<link>https://cyclingchristchurch.co.nz/2012/08/20/going-our-separate-ways/#comment-43</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frabj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 01:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In Holland cycle lanes and road are often separated by a berm ( www.duurzameenergiethuis.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fietspad.jpg ). In the city centres cycle lanes are often separated from the road by parked cars (with a space between lane and road to allow for opening doors)  Raised barriers along the road are also used a lot. Generally there are not a lot of cycling safety concerns as most drivers are cyclists too....I have lived over 30 yrs in Holland and can not remember ever  witnessing a cycle accident.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Holland cycle lanes and road are often separated by a berm ( <a href="http://www.duurzameenergiethuis.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fietspad.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.duurzameenergiethuis.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/fietspad.jpg</a> ). In the city centres cycle lanes are often separated from the road by parked cars (with a space between lane and road to allow for opening doors)  Raised barriers along the road are also used a lot. Generally there are not a lot of cycling safety concerns as most drivers are cyclists too&#8230;.I have lived over 30 yrs in Holland and can not remember ever  witnessing a cycle accident.</p>
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